<Scott> CNN had two reporteres in norfolk.
<YLE-Fin> QuazeABC: Possibly a fake ... I don't quite 
   believe that every one missile site has been destroyed.
<QuazeABC> yle-fin: me neither, but they only said the 
   "known" sites...
<PeaceServ> Wallops from banshee: robert, comment?
<russell> Local news says security is very tight at Offutt 
   (SAC HQ)
<CBS> CBS reports Baghdad raids continue.
<Ely> n
<Scott> no more weather reports from Mid east.
<Ely> Saddam talks on radio-bagdag
<QuazeABC> for security reasons, we're no longer getting 
   weather reports form SA
<CBS> Ely: Where did you get that info?
<Nati> radio bagdhad is no trying to broadcast. Saddam is 
   speaking
<Scott> ely: specifics.
<QuazeABC> saying what?
<Ely> CBS: Israeli radio
<Nati> I cannot understand arabic well, and so have no idea 
   what he is saying...
<Ely> QABC: no info yet.
<QuazeABC> ely: mostly 'breast-beating' then?
<CBS> CBS finally reports on Saddam talking.
<QuazeABC> ABC still nothing. we're on local news here...
<russell> NBC as well.
<CBS> They don't yet KNOW if it's Saddam.
<Scott> quaze: ch 15/23
<spam> I'm switching to NBC
<Nati> Saddm said: War has started. Ammericans will be 
   taught a lesson.
<Ely> QABC: well, it seems that he is not surrending. kinda 
   relegiuos speaks
<Nati> (rough translation)
<Lost_Boy> BRB -=- Q-ABC add me when I get back,
<CBS> CBS is talking about an imitation of Saddam who might 
   be the one talking.
<Nati> might be
<Swan> Turkey says:  you can use turkish bases to attack 
   iraq to US
<QuazeABC> abc news back (sorta)
<fin-bbc> shaw is smelling something in baghdad.. ;)
<CBS> CBS Off to local news.
<russell> Local ABC talking about return of SAC desert band.
<Nati> Someting happened in Nablus (Skhem). Not sure what.  
   (it's hard listening to 2 or 3 things at once, and 
   following IRC...)
<Lost_Boy> the log file is on cs.bu.edu and xanth.odu.edu
<russell> ABC will be back with Nightline from Aman Jordan
<Scott> lost: thanx
<russell> ABC is back.
<QuazeABC> xanth.cs.odu.edu you mean.
<Lost_Boy> Nati Tell me about it.  Thanks Q-ABC
<QuazeABC> abc still stalling until nightline...
<russell> What's CNN up to?
<YLE-Fin> YLE stopped their news coverage, I'll be back in 
   business when TV3 starts their program at 6:30 EET.
<Nati> Morning paper should have arived, if it's out today. 
   But it contains nothing about the war, since it's closed at 
   1 am (an hout before the war)
<Ely> 3 shots to American council in jerusalem this morning
<Lost_Boy> I am only posting the file to cs.bu.edu and 
   xanth.cs.odu.edu.  You can get the files at those two cites.
<Nati> Light over Haifa now. Guess this is the time for a 
   missile, if at all.
<Scott> nati: WHY when it is light an not when it is dark?
<Ely> Saddam call all arab citizens to start jihad. ("the 
   greatest war")
<QuazeABC> <=== back shortly to local news.
<Nati> The TV said that we may except an atack after 
   sunrise, sine there is a full blackout in Iraq, and they 
   may nonly get to the missile and launch it at morning
<CBS> CBS has shortwave operator reporting Baghdad damage 
   was "minimal and very strategic"
<Ely> Nati: Iraki air-power, if left any, will be used only 
   on day-light.
<PBS> PBS is saying "decimated" Iraqi airforce... opinion 
   from....
<QuazeABC> <==== Nightline starting
<Nati> I will go out and get the late paper when it somes 
   out, but there will probably be very few news things there, 
   since it's done by 4 or 5 am.
<QuazeABC> ABC translates saddam " The Mother of all 
   Battles has been started".  "Us has achieved a pretty good 
   level of tactical surprise"
<Nati> (Thanks to all for the good luck whishings. Ely 
   deserves them too. Hope I won't need 'em)
<Scott> 100 tomohawk missiles launched at a time..
<QuazeABC> we've hit, suppressed, or destroyed most of 
   iraqs early warning air system.
<NPR> "Baghdad radio says Iraq will never surrender"
<CBS> CBS: Oil prices originally soared, but then fell back.
    Dan Rather said not sure exactly where it's at now.
<Scott> +4 cents locally... in va beach.
<banshee> is there /who chanop command. :)
<CBS> Iraqi's are shelling the town of Khafji, 8 miles from 
   the Kuwait border. Fire shifted from the Refinery to the 
   town.
<Scott> ABC: planes did NOT come from turkey..
<QuazeABC> abc reports that as many as 1000 planes were 
   involved on our side tonight!
<Scott> MULTI-national force... Saudi-Arabia, Kuwait = 150..
   . Us and United Kingdom.
<Nati> Were any tomhawk fired ?
<Scott> "several hundred at a time" from ships
<QuazeABC> unconfirmed on that, nati
<Swan> yeah nati lots of tomahawks.  1/5th our arsenal they 
   said?
<Scott> aimed at air forces... on the ground.
<NPR> 1.1 million barrels of oil of national strategic 
   reserve to be put on the market per day
<Swan> (a tomahawk is a cruise missile)
<QuazeABC> yes, but (technically, as far as I know) the 
   launches are unconfirmed...
<Scott> abc: re-claims/affirms that all 4 devisions of the 
   military were used.
<Nati> Saddam: There was a big duce. bla bla bla
<star> report from the station that I am listening to. 
   (Huntsville AL) that Israel states that the scuds destroyed 
   by U.S. were targeted on Israel
<Nati> No scuds were fired at Israel. If they were, there 
   would have been an alarm horn here
<star> University of Alabama in Huntsville, (adjacent to 
   Redstone Arsenal)
<Scott> there was a rumor that 5 were fired...  or 3.. and 
   that the fell short/ blew up in the air.
<banshee> :-P
<TV3> Scott: 5 SCUDs were fired
<NPR> The time needed to arm a surviving scud missile and 
   launch it after the first attack elapsed almost two hours 
   ago
<QuazeABC> the rumor was confirmed by bahrain civil defense 
   minister.
<CNN> Baghdad radio is back on the air....  it has called 
   for Arab uprising....
<LogServ> Tornados were involved (british), no losses (SDR3,
    FRG)
<Nati> the 5 that were fired were, as I herd, aimd at Saudi,
    and landed in a desert in Baharain (the oposite direction 
   from Israel)
<QuazeABC> nati: yes, that is true...
<CNN> Baghdad radio is being heavily jammed.... still only 
   sketchy reports on casualties.
<spam> nati: that confirms what we've heard too
<CBS> CBS says bullets were fired at American Consulate. 
   Heard that here about 15 mins ago.
<Scott> 45 minutes to set up/arm 4-7 minutes air time... to 
   jeru..
<star> Today in Hutsville Redstone Arsenal drastically 
   increased security.
<Nati> scott: and 2 hours to find some parking :-)
<TV3> lsg
<star> News report says that Iraqi's are shelling refinery 
   in Saudi (ABC correspondant)
<Scott> scuds = 500 mile range and mach 5...
<CBS> Cbs believes the Saddam broadcast is authentic, not 
   an impostor.
<star> I am on via alabama Supercomputer network and MIT
<Scott> 22/msg nati WHO
<CBS> Saddam calls Bush "A hippocritical criminal"
<Scott>  needs to
<CNN> star: confirms what CNN and shortwave said.
<Scott> Mig-29 comparable to f-15?
<star> Reporter says that two storage tanks at the refinery 
   have been hit and are burning, (8 miles south of kuwaitt 
   border).  Scott negative
<CBS> Soviet vs. US Plane, Scott. F15 probably has greater 
   capabilities.
<CNN> Cameras have been placed in the noses of some F-15s, 
   should be some interesting footage...
<CBS> Pilot who made the Libyan photo's ran missions this 
   morning w/ camera onboard.
<Nati> (I will have to d/c in 15 minutes since rates are 
   going back to prime-time, which is too steep for me)
<star> reporter says that about half of the shelling has 
   been shifted to the city in Saudi where refinery is.  
   reporter is CBS news reporter David Green on radio
<Scott> star: any serious damage? heavy shelling... light? 
   hap-hazzard?
<star> This station is located on redstone arsenal and is 
   owned by U.S. army
<QuazeABC> asian stock markets open, recovered, and gained..
   .
<star> no report of what civilian targets have been hit in 
   Saudi
<NPR> "It was absolutely clear that Saddam Hussein was in a 
   very angry, defiant mood" (word from listening post on 
   Cypress, hearing Iraqi radio come back up)
<Lost_Boy> BRB.  The latest logfiles are up
<NPR> (Uh, Cyprus)
<QuazeABC> nightline filling time.....no real good stuff
<star> seems to be haphazard shelling
<LogServ> sdr: kairo-report, bush-talk was broadcasted 
   there, too. no special events
<TV3> Lost_Boy: My log is 170K long
<Nati> Many comm links in Israel, as well as one of the 
   computers here (an IBM mainfraim) are unavialable. Probably 
   due to army usage.
<Scott> (since no new pertinent info is coming) was Bush 
   SMILING during that talk?
<QuazeABC> secDef baker has gone home to bed 8)
<Scott> baker has gone to bed... heh..
<star> Interesting statement from British reporter. Britian 
   was in combat in Kuwaitt in 1961 to repel an Iraqi attack.
<QuazeABC> scott: yeah, he was sorta smirking...
<Scott> I thought he had dimples and he was grinning 
   uncontrollably... intimidating!
<CBS> He messed up the speech a few times and cracked a 
   grin when he was talking about liberating Kuwait.
<Swan> representative of iraqi TV is talking to CNN people 
   in bagdad now.
<NPR> PM of Turkey will request war powers from cabinet
<star> Leading strike forces returned without losses! 
   Update coming in!
<Scott> turkey going to dicuss and possibly declare war on 
   iraq?
<CBS> People in New York (1,000 Ppl) demonstrating in front 
   of UN building.
<Swan> Iraqi TV indicated CNN will be permitted to transmit 
   pictures taken last night via their satelite equipment
<Scott> CBS: peace? (obviously?)
<CBS> Scott: Yes.
<star> Iraqi air force decimated! we will know for sure 
   later
<fin-bbc> swan - unbeliveable!!
<Swan> star: that is ollld :)
<star> ok
<Scott> for wumpus:  I am watching ABC.  and I switch to 
   PBS (15/23 petersburg/richmond)
<star> gone back to fnet see ya!
<Swan> (for those of you just tuning in to radio IRC I will 
   give an update now).  1) republican guard (iraqi elite 
   troops) "decimated".  2) iraqi air force near eliminated.  
   3) scud missiles probably eliminated.  5 launched, 4 burst 
   in air, 1 landed harmlessly in
<CBS> CBS: Oil prices relaxed to $35.00 a barrel.
<Swan> desert.  nuke/bio/chem sites hit.  command centers 
   hit.  iraqi shelling saudi refinery.
<CBS> CBS back to local news.
<Scott> If turkey declares war, can the soviet tanks roll 
   through?
<CBS> CBS Local news reports 400 cruisemissiles launched 
   from Gulf.
<Swan> rioting in the occupied territories.  israel not hit.
    saddam asks his people to teach americans a lesson.
<Scott> abc: all targets outside/visible are in "pretty bad 
   shape" or "decimated" --> like republican guard..
<NPR> Scott: Turkish PM wants to get permission for US to 
   use bases inside Turkey.  That's all
<Nati> IRC radio reporter Nati, reporting from Nati comm 
   center, Haifa, Israel. This is an update: In israel Civil 
   Defence State was announced, Citizens were ordered to stay 
   at home, keep gas masks near and be ready
<Swan> NPR: CNN stated permission was already granted?
<QuazeABC> ok guys, since nothing real is happening, I'm 
   gonna grab a couple hours sleep.  I noticed 2 irc logs so 
   far on xanth.cs.odu.edu /incoming/misc. I'll be putting 
   mine up tomorrow, and at least two others have agreed to do 
   the same. I'll see yall in a few hou
<Nati> Full cerfew put on the occupied teretories, strictly 
   kept. In east Jerusalem: some riots in 2 arab nighberhods 
   after which there were heavy police potrols
<Swan> see ya quaze. I'm leaving too.
<spam> nati: Are they having a lot of casualties?
<Nati> No alarm was sounded and most Israelis continued to 
   sleep as normal. The economey here has been put in 
   emergancy state for the first time since 1973 (th Yum Kipur 
   War)
<fin-bbc> thanks alll..see ya soon on this bat-frequency..
<tatsuya/+report> 93?? that is a lot ...
<Nati> No casualties at all. Nothing happend here.
<Eye> ok thanks. I will only be useful.
<Lost_Boy> Ok, people, I am sending out my last logfile.
<CBS> CBS is still on local news. I'm going to signoff, 
   hope to be back tomorrow to check on Info.
<Scott> ABC --> recapping...  18 1/2 hours... Bill 
   rettiford from e. s.a give early indication..
<Eye> About 600 people are gathered at the Federal buidling 
   in Seattle. So far they are peaceful.
<Lost_Boy> Bye everyone!
<Nati> I have to go now.... Bye bye all !
<TV3> In Bagdhad as targets have been communications center 
   and the airport.
<Scott> I have work tomorrow... nightline waiting to go to 
   sG !lPL7=dt7^6.3=92sv
<Eye> Saddam on radio: Pres. Bush is a hypocritical 
   criminal.  Planes are still taking off and landing in Saudi.
<NPR> NPR is recapping the time-line of tonight and quoting 
   the quotes, so off I go to bed.
<TV3> Saddam said: The mother of all battles has begun.
<Eye> It is now daybreak there.  CBS: Still no reports of 
   losses on US/UN side. No air combat.  Nato says Saddam can 
   still pull out. goal is not occupation of Iraq, but freedom 
   of Kuwait.
<PeaceServ> Wallops from oddjob.uchicago.edu: Received 
   SQUIT nic.funet.fi from bucsd.bu.edu
<Eye> live from Iraq: The bombing was massive. 5 miles from 
   city.
<spam> eye: which city?
<Eye> There is smoke (heavy) in bagdad.
<PeaceServ> Wallops from argst1: british authorities report 
   no casualties
<Eye> That bombing was around Bagdad. (sorry).  Israelis 
   have been told to stay home.  It is now daybreak in Israel.
<Handle> Anyone know about the CNN news team?  Are they 
   still in Baghdad?
<Eye> There are still journalists in the hotel. I don't 
   know about CNN.  CNN said that US forces have decimeted 
   Iraqi missile bases in western Iraq. (threat to Israel).  
   For those who are asking: I am watching CNN, NBC and local 
   news. (Seattle)
<Eye> First video from Saudi Arabia. NBC is showing it.  
   Just blurry shots of planes taking off.  I wonder when/if 
   the air force will release video from the bombings.
<Handle> Iraqi terrorist have filled Lake Huron with 
   Nestle's quick and demand an uncensored appearance on 
   Hollywood Squares with John Davidson!
<Eye> Group at the federal building is growing. (Seattle) 
   many police. thousands more on the way.  Saddam on radio: 
   Palistine and Mecca will be liberated.
<Handle/+report> test.  test
<Ely> Iraki army spokeman tried to speak over radi, but 
   jammed. Also, Iraki continue to jamm 'voice of america' 
   transmitions.
<Eye> Iraqi television has said it will transmit a message 
   in a few minutes.  (cnn)
<Ely> So says IL radio.
<Eye> CNN: Showing video of planes preparing to fly to Iraq 
   (video is from before the attack.).  Earlier. For those who 
   missed it, the Iraqis were shelling a town directly to the 
   south of Kuwait. I forgot the name (sorry).  Apparently the 
   Saudi troop who were supposed to be there were not. That 
   surprised the reporter.
<K5> Canadians now riding shot-gun for Allied bombers...
<Eye> The city was Kjafi. (thanks Chronos)
<Ely> SaudiTV: most of iraki troops eliminated. (republican 
   guard divisions)
<Eye> The reporter said that the Iraqis could just walk in. 
   Specualtion says that the Saudi troops were transfered 
   elsewhere.  A french journalist in bagdad reports 
   telecommunications tower in Bagdad hit and destroyed.  
   journalist in Bagdad: Palace had much activity. much anti-
   aircraft activity from there. but no confirmed hits. no 
   smoke from there,
<K5> Baghdad downtown still appears untouched.... outskirts 
   condition unknown as yet...
<Eye> the journalist is Allen Pizzey of CBS.  CNN: London: 
   Prime minister about to speak:  England has 2nd largest 
   plane force.  rumor from Chronos: UK has 40,000 troops 
   there.
<TV3> Three CNN reporters are Okay.
<K5> Americans lost 105 lives BEFORE operation 
   Desert_Shield.  All accidents, etc...
<TV3> Thu Jan 17 07:43:17 EET 1991
<Eye> ABC: poll says 89% of US pop day US will win war 
   quickly. 1% say no.  Chronos troop stats come from PBS
<LogServ> bin seit 5 uhr online :)
<Eye> So far all has gone very well stratigically. No 
   reports of losses.  CNN: showing returning planes to Saudi. 
    Perhaps it is bad that all has gone so well. This may 
   encourage us to continue being the worlds police.
<K5> can anyone out there find any known religious 
   interpretations for the quote: "Mother of all battles." 
   (Saddam seems to love this phrase)
<TV3> complx: I've been on *THIS* channel for 6 hours and 5 
   minutes ...  complx: ...and I've been IRC'ing for 9 hours 
   and 30 minutes continuously
<Eye> local news (Seattle): Terrorism attacks may not be 
   covered by insurence policies. (act of war).  The White 
   House is not active. The "situation room" still ahs people, 
   but they don't talk to the press.
<Chronos> hi
<tcc> ./comm silent dturner +report.  ./comm silent Ely 
   +report
<K5> 'lo.
<Eye> Chronos: hi. You have a voice!  k5: lo!  CNN: said 
   only a handfull of Iraqi planes took off. That is the first 
   I have heard of Iraqi planes taking off.
<K5> Saudi telecommunications feed to K5 is gone.
<TV3> date
<K5> NATO ministers meeting in an emergency session today...
<PeaceServ> Wallops from Hamlet: Hmmm...is it just me or 
   are we all quite ;-).  Wallops from Daemon: Quite what?
<LogServ> SDR3: iraq military communique, 18000 tons of 
   bombs, cause of the
<Eye> ?
<LogServ> iraq air defense they bombed from a high altitude,
    bombs fell on.  civil areas.
<PeaceServ> Wallops from banshee: yes yes... quite what??? 
   the SUSPENSE is killing me.
<Eye> US ambassador to UN was just asked if he has a 
   message for hussein. He said "I think the message was just 
   delivered"
<dodo> Finland has put extra policemen to guard US and 
   Iraqi embassies in Helsinki
<dodo1> test
<PeaceServ> Wallops from banshee: OH. quiet! Hamlet, learn 
   to type.  Wallops from Tce: awww give him a break - hes on 
   a VMS.  Wallops from spam: Ooooh, you! Why, you dirty rat, 
   I'll give you such a.. a.. a WALLOP!  Wallops from banshee: 
   Oops. did I start something again? *innocent look* sorry 
   guys.
<dodo1> saddam hussein to appear on Iraqi TV ... soon ... 
   probably different from his "mother of battles" stuff on 
   radio
<TV3> UN's chief secretary Javier Perez De Cuellar is sad 
   for the beginning of the war, and angry for that he was not 
   told about the air raid in advance.
<dodo1> president bush allowed sale of oilfrom nation's 
   stockpiles within the next 30 days.  Saddam Hussein's house 
   was hit and burnt to the ground ... (no, he was most 
   probably not there)
<TV3> date
<LogServ> SDR3: Oil reserves in Europe will last more than 
   100 days, german reserves more than 130 days
<TV3> Iraqi hasn't succeeded in destroying the oil 
   refineries of Saudi-Arabia.
<dodo1> Oil prices moving sharply down ... should soon be 
   below $20 a barrel ... once they knew Saudi oil facilities 
   had not been hit.  British source described oil prices 
   today as a roller coaster ride
<jonna> comm pjg +report
<dodo1> 400 bombing raids in a 3 hour period ... total 
   amount about 18000 tons ... equal to a small nuke ... in 
   Baghdad alone
<jonna> comm Lare +report
<dodo> wasn't the hiroshima bomb about 20,000 tons?
<dodo1> dodo: i think you're right ... that's why i said it 
   was almost equal to a small nuke
<K5> ouch.
<dodo> so, where do u need nukes for? (-:
<jonna> comm d +report
<dodo1> Price of oil now $40 a barrel though it is expected 
   to fall to below $20 a barrel.  clarification: 18000 tons 
   of bombs dropped in Baghdad, but almost no damage to the 
   downtown area ... civilian areas largely spared
<TVQ> exit.  jobs -l
<dodo1> Turkey has announced that it plans to ask 
   permission from its parliament to cross the border into 
   Iraq (though they had earlier wanted to stay neutral)
<dodo> silence...
<dodo1> Turkey is the only NATO ally with a border on Iraq. 
    Jordan has put its forces on alert and closed the airport 
   in Amman
<banshee> I've got a question.
<K5> Baghdad is currently under attack we have sound on K5
<dodo1> banshee : for whom ? what ?
<banshee> when is Tom Brokaw going to get ANY sleep tonite.
<dodo1> banshee: :)
<Arkie> Good question.  :-)
<dodo1> crude oil now $2a barrel
<banshee> :-P''''''
<Arkie> Please, no chop wars.
<dodo1> sorry ... i mean it's down $2 a barrel
<Arkie> This is for information, not for wards.
<banshee> I mean the white house is asleep... but the news 
   guys are still up. (then again.. so am I)
<dodo> they're bombing baghdad right now
<TV3> Saddam said that USA has failed to crush Iraq with 
   the massive air raid.  ... that the mother of all battles 
   has begun.
<banshee> that's old news.
<dodo1> The report stating that Saddam Huusein's home was 
   hit and burnt came from Israeli radio quoting Baghdad radio
<BTV_3> Saddam has said that the only targets which were 
   hit were those which 'God' wanted hit
<Arkie> I wonder what frequency R. Israel is.
<dodo1> .
<K5> what is it with this "Mother of all battles" bit ??? 
   is this a blblical reference ? if it is, from where ?
<dodo> K5: i would think it is from Quran
<Arkie> It isn't.  Quite possibly a religious one, 
   nontheless.  Probably.
<dodo1> NATO allies have sent sophisticated equipment and 
   other equipment to Turkey just in case
<banshee> geeez. 3-10 days of heavy bombing.
<dodo1> whoi wintermut
<Arkie> They plan on rehitting some of the targets they hit 
   last night.
<dodo1> Wintermut on this channel reports that US 
   journalist at the front says Radio Baghdad has just gone 
   off the air
<Python> I know the freq's for radio Israel
<Arkie> Things said here are being logged.  This is the 
   third log, spelling nearly .5M of information.
<Python> I heard rad. baghdad went off the air much earlier 
   (and that we jammed all their freqs)
<BTV_3> Another air attack underway now
<dodo1> python: yes, there was speculation that either the 
   radio towers had been hit, or the jamming was working
<K5> set logfile report.3
<Arkie> What are the R. Israel frequencies?
<banshee> yu realize this channel is a concise report of 
   CNN, NBC, ABC, CBS and local stations and radio stations. :)
<Python> According to Popular Communcations magazine, Kol 
   Israel, 9435//11605//12077 at 2230-2300, 0000-0030, 0100-
   0130;  11605//12077//15640 at 2000-2030.  17575//21790 at 
   1100-1130;  9455 at 0015 and 17590 at 1900
<Arkie> So... it's 0545Z now...
<Python> those times in UTC
<Arkie> No R. Israel up now, then.
<TV3> New raid has begun 20 minutes ago.  Baghdad is under 
   heavy attack.
<dodo1> 1.2 million barrels to be put on the market per day 
   by Bush from the nation's stockpiles
<BTV_3> Brief wave of attack on Bagdhad has finished
<dodo1> for the next 30 days.  lots of things that Hussein 
   can do now that he couldn't do earlie
<FinnTV3> Rauli Virtanen said in front of 1 million Finnish 
   citizens "No connection yet? Holy shit"
<dodo1> such as use surface to air missiles,.  use anti-
   aircraft missiles that require sightings, etc ...  things 
   may not be so good for the allies from now on
<FinnTV3> The centrum of Baghdad has not suffered of severe 
   damage (Rauli Virtanen, Amman). In stead missile bases have 
   been destroyed.
<dodo1> Mikhael Gorbachev to appear on soviet TV shortly to 
   talk about the gulf
<FinnTV3> Thu Jan 17 08:56:36 EET 1991
<dodo1> Iran has said that all this is a terrible blow to 
   life and resources in the area ... "we are sorry that all 
   efforts to end the crisis have failed"
<Chronos> CNN: Jordan border area (neutral zone) hit with 
   bombs during the night ...
<dodo1> Iran told it's citizens not to worry, that they 
   were armed and ready, but they didn't say what they were 
   ready for
<Chronos> CNN: Jordanian air space is open ... 18007321206 
   U.S. Navy gen. Info immediate family number ...  
   18005232694 marine corp gen info number for family
<FinnTV3> PLO has adviced the whole world to raise against 
   USA and the alliance.
<Arkie> I got them all.  DoD update numbers for immediate 
   family use only.  Air Force:  1-800-253-9276.  Army  1-703-
   614-9276.
<Chronos> reporter at CNN saw Hussain walking to TV station 
   less than an hour ago ...
<Arkie> Navy, specific info:  1-800-255-3808.  Navy, 
   general info:  1-800-732=0206.  Marines:  1-800-523-2694.
<dodo1> BBc reports that about 9 tons of bombs had been 
   dropped in and around Baghdad (comment: huh ? what about 
   the 18000 tons ? do they mean that Britain dropped 9 tons ?)
<BTV_3> Saudi Hospitals told to expect "hundreds of 
   casualties" from the front lines over the next few days
<dodo1> Sean Connery said the US should not have been 
   involved !!!
<FinnTV3> Tank battle has begun between Kuwait and Saudi 
   Arabia.
<dodo1> FinnTV3: are you sure ? I heard no ground moves had 
   yet been made
<FinnTV3> dodo1: es.
<BTV_3> FinnTV3: confirmation?
<FinnTV3> That's what National TV 2 said.
<spam> dodo1: Yes, a reporter on CNN just claimed so
<Chronos> CNN : Tomahawks seen leaving U.S. criusers ...  
   over 40 more then launched next ...  Tomahawks are low 
   flying cruise missles ...
<BTV_3> Unconfirmed "some Iraqi troops have surrendered" - 
   ABC
<Python> Is there any rioting on any campuses there?  
   (there is here)
<ShaiHulud> CNN radio: Hussein: The beginning of the end of 
   world imperialism as practiced by the US.
<Chronos> Red Sea and Gulf ships preceeded Air attack with 
   cruise missles (range: 800 mi.)
<dodo1> Saddam claims that the raids achieved nothing 
   except civilian casualties.  Terrorist expert in L.A. says 
   terrorist threats in the US are real threats and we have to 
   be careful
<ShaiHulud> Hussein: a decade of terrorism will follow.
<Chronos> Attacks by air with interceptors and ground 
   attack craft were largely successful, but daylight raids 
   WILL continue through the day ...
<BTV_3> Australian protestors arrested for daubing animal 
   blood on Defence Recruiting Centre exterior walls
<Chronos> Moscow forces put on high alert in southern USSR .
   ..
<Python> any campus riots going on?
<dodo1> python: no, but highways have been blocked by peace 
   activists in Pittsburgh ... 17 students were arrested at 
   the peace demonstrations at the University of Pittsburgh 
   yesterday
<Chronos> 10 days around the clock bombing has been planned 
   by pentagon ...
<FinnTV> Iraqiis have made some black smoke over Baghdad to 
   hide the most vulnerable places...
<dodo1> Egypt reports that the Iraqi missile backbone has 
   indeed been broken
<ShaiHulud> Western TV tech saw Hussein at TV station at 1 
   EST.  he looked 'resolute and determined'
<Python> there was a big riot here at OU and I thought I 
   heard a shot fired
<BTV_3> Australian domestic airlines will require Passport 
   for domestic travel from today
<CBS_radio> Hussein: Bush is 'hypocritical criminal'.  SH 
   will 'crush the satanic intentions'.  USSR troops in south 
   on 'high state of alert'
<dodo1> reports that some Iraqui missiles WERE launched at 
   Saudi Arabia but none reached their targets
<Chronos> Large bomb sounds in baghdad reported by CNN 
   journalist ...
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<Chronos> Attack near Iraqi Foreign ministry ... anti-
   aircraft batterys firing ...
<cheapie/+report> any casaulty report ?
<Chuck> CNN is reporting there *was* some _white_ smoke 
   over a wide area, but they don't know the reason for it.....
<CBS_radio> No official report of american casualties.
<dodo1> official confirmation that second attack is 
   underway .... baghdad and probably other targets too
<CBS_radio> John Major 'pleased'.  No British casualties.
<dodo1> British Prime Minister to speak soon outside 10 
   Downing Street ... after Breakfast on CBS.  their breakfast,
    that is, soon
<CBS_radio> NATO met at 3:30 am in Brussels.
<Python> anyone monitoring NPR?
<CBS_radio> US Ambassador 'Not destruction...of Iraq but 
   the liberation of Kuwait'
<Chronos> French troops are on their way to join with 
   Allies .... (rumor)
<CBS_radio> BBC reporter in iraq: huge acrid cloud of smoke.
   .. possible chemical weapons plant.
<Chronos> CNN says smoke in Baghdad has a powerful odor ....
    add-on CBS-radio
<dodo1> some people dived for their gas masks in Iraq, but 
   the air seems to be clear of dangerous chemicals
<CBS_radio> Major and Gorbachev about to make speeches, but 
   delayed.
<dodo1> Prime Minister John Major and Mickhael Gorbachev to 
   speak soon .... both had been delayed since announcement
<Chronos> Part of presidential palace has been hit ... 
   iraqi oil refineries ... airport in Baghdad hit ...
<CBS_radio> CBS: Saddam believes he is fighting for all 
   Arabs.
<Chronos> Egyptians don't think so ...
<BTV_3> Soviets say "very sad and tragic"...have ordered 
   inspections of civil defense arrangements in Southern USSR.
<CBS_radio> 'Arabs will feel the hurt and defeat of Saddam..
   . It is a battle for the Arab soul'
<Chronos> Reports are attempting to comfirm a SCUD launch ..
   ..  ABC: Iraqi position , defending humanity, future of the 
   world , will regain all arab writes, and show the iraqi 
   military might ....
<dodo1> test
<CBS_radio> Army not active yet.
<dodo1> second attack: explosions, no idea where in Baghdad 
   they were , one big explosion
<Python> CNN: black smoke still in bdad, iraq shooting anti-
   aircraft guns (reports that there are no planes overhead)
<CBS_radio> Iraqi armed forces communique 1: attacks 
   started 230 am...continuing...from S.A. 'cursed attack'
<BTV_3> unconfirmed Civilian targets hit in western Bagdhad.
   ..communications centre, oil refinery - residential areas 
   close by.
<CBS_radio> Baghdad: lights out. explosions in unknown 
   places. possibly power station.. huge explosion, much smoke.
     There is still traffic.  Govt Hdqtrs hit.  (BBC reporter 
   in Bagh.)
<Python> 400 raids in 1st 3 hours (60 separate targets) 
   (NPR)
<BTV_3> (unconfirmed re civilians source: private telephone 
   from Jordan)
<Chronos> Cuba and N. Korea condemns Allied action ...
<Python> main telecommunications tower/oil refinery hit
<CBS_radio> Major still late for speech.
<Python> I believe NPR is relaying BBC
<CBS_radio> CBS is carrying BBC also.
<dodo1> Oil is down $3 a barrel
<Chronos> 150 Saudi jets currently involved in attack ...
<dodo1> gold price fell in London.  All financial markets 
   in the US to remain open inspite of war
<CBS_radio> Pentagon:Bombing will continue for a long period
<dodo1> Brigadier General in Israel said that he knew that 
   missiles aimed at Israel had been destroyed
<Robert> Just spoke to a pilot - Said he was shooting down 
   the SAMS , providing cover for fighter/bombers
<dodo1> Robert: who spoke ?
<Robert> dodo1: A "unkown" pilot who just returned. Said he 
   was going in for breakfast and the going back out on 
   another mission...on ABC I think
<Prong/+report> Why will no one in this group reply to me?
<dodo1> confirming robert's message from the pilot .. a 
   Colonel ... on CBS-Radio
<CBS_radio> All of his 12 planes returned safely.
<Chronos> Win one for the Gipper!
<dodo1> cyprus reports quoting iraqi sources that iraqi 
   residential areas HAVE been hit
<CBS_radio> John Major: enormous effort to prevent civilian 
   casualties.  JM: Negotians possible if SH withdraws.
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<Python> high-pitched roar in baghdad (CNN) don't know what 
   it is
<BTV_3> Japanese company claims attack on oil facility off 
   SA coast .. damage only - not destroyed
<dodo1> JM is not aware of even a single British casualty
<CBS_radio> BBC: headlines: 'WAR' 'BLITZ' 'BAGHDAD BLITZ'
<Chronos> Denver Post - "IT'S WAR"
<CBS_radio> Kuwait ambassador in Paris said raid destroyed 
   Iraqi command post in Kuwait.  No damage to Kuwait city.  
   Pentagon: major announcement from Cheney 7 am EST.  Cameras 
   on planes will be used to inspect damage.
<dodo1> war in an intelligence-collating stage now to 
   analyze damages.  defense minister to give second briefing 
   on 2nd wave soon
<NPR_[BBC]> missiles aimed for israel struck in 1st attack 
   (is. def. minister) "It was a very good morning"
<dodo1> sorry ,.. read "to give briefing on second attack". 
    the defense minister has not yet spoken on the 2nd wave
<NPR_[BBC]> let's try again... iraq's missiles were 
   destroyed in 1st attack
<BTV_3> Jerusalem reporter says Israel just issued 'Order 
   8' to activate reservists
<CBS_radio> Are the Israelis planning to attack Iraq or 
   only defend themselves?  We outnumbered Iraqi AF 3-1 before 
   attack.
<NPR_[BBC]> jordan radio described raid as act of 
   aggression, no official respons from egypt
<dodo1> cbs: the israelis are just planning to defend ... 
   but there  is a lessened chance of their being attacked, 
   considering the damages to missiles and air force
<CBS_radio> thanks, dodo1.
<dodo1> why is nobody saying anything about the second wave 
   ? could it be that it didn't turn out so good ? they're 
   talking crap on all the networks now !
<ShaiHulud> Give Peace a Chance! -John Lennon.
<Robert> Appears that information is now getting very hard 
   to come by...CNN still talking to reporters in Baghdad
<Chronos> Imagine - John Lennon
<dodo1> President Bush trying to get some sleep !  :).  
   serious !  CBS Radio justr rep[orted it
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<dodo1> French aircraft may have been involved in second 
   attack as it was in the daytime ... French aircraft, like 
   the Iraqis', are not well equipped for night warfare.  11:
   29 in the morning in Saudi Arabia.  no signs that Iraq was 
   attacked with anything more than anti-aircraft artilleries. 
    oops ... i mean no signs that Iraq HAS attacked with 
   anything other than AAA !!!
<NPR_[BBC]> you mean they attacked US with no more than 
   anti-aircraft art?
<dodo1> sorry for that ! ... thanks NPR.  price of oil near 
   $40 a barrel ...  for those who don't yet know: President 
   Bush has allowed release of 1.2 million barrels a day of 
   oil to be released from national stockpiles for 30 days to 
   keep prices down
<NPR_[BBC]> CNN is airing unedited pool footage of 
   interviews w/ troops
<dodo1> correspondent in Israel saw 2 kids going to play 
   tennis with gas-masks in their hands, but.  the tension 
   seems to be low ... Egypt reports that the Iraqi.  missile 
   and airforce system has been almost totally destroyed
<Robert> Lt. Colenel being interviewed by CNN saying that 
   some Iraqi planes did take off, but did not engage. Instead 
   they headed north
<BTV_3> whois Aussie
<dodo1> CD       Muammar Quaddafi of Libya s.  Muammar 
   Quaddafi of Libya said that the US led attack should not go 
   beyond driving Iraq out of Iraq.  oops.  Iraq out of Kuwait.
     sorry, guys .
<BTV_3> Currently "considerable consternation" in Jordan.
<dodo1> SEan Connery said US has no business to be there !
<NPR_[BBC]> where did you hear that, dodo/
<dodo1> NPR: CBS-Radio ... actually interviewed him
<BTV_3> IS THERE ANY NEW REPORTAGE?
<NPR_[BBC]> I haven't seen any for a while
<dodo1> BTV_3: NO, and that seems VERY STRANGE to me ... 
   they're just broadcasting old hat all over the place
<BTV_3> Ahhh, The waiting...
<dodo1> only some reports from Baghdad that some bombs had 
   started falling .... Jaguars from French air-force probably 
   in action now
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<dodo1> Jaguars probably went in action against a target in 
   Kuwait.  update: airforce and missile force destroyed ...  
   almost.  pilots of first wave back.  second wave now 
   attacking.  four french planes attacked, hit, but returned 
   safely
<NPR_[BBC]> who says, dodo1?
<Robert> dodo1: Planes hit, or target hit ?
<dodo1> first wave (according to israel quoting baghdad 
   radio) destroyed saddam's residence.  robert: 4 planes hit ,
    returned safely
<RELAY> Current wave is to seek out remaining radar....
   (yawn..)
<dodo1> robert: french planes.  NPR: CBS.  saddam seen 
   alive.  at a TV statiopn by a Western technician.  ... all 
   hold hat ... i'm just updating for those who haven't been 
   on until lately ... no new news for nearly an hour now
<NPR_[BBC]> is that good news?
<dodo1> NPR: well, if i were the pilot, i would have wished 
   he was in the house when i bombed :).  but i wonder why 
   there is no fresh news ... i dunno ... all the 
   channels/frequencies are reporting old stuff/ interviewing 
   irrelevant people !
<RELAY> Once remaining radar mopped-up, A10's can go in, 
   followed by ground invasion?
<dodo1> relay: no, i think the B-15s will go in b4 that , 
   for what they call carpet bombing
<NPR_[BBC]> b-15?
<dodo1> and the A-10s at their tails
<RELAY> But doubtful that news silence is any more than 
   normally conspiratorial.
<dodo1> realy: well, i hope so.  NPR: heavy bombers, fly low
<RELAY> dodo1: exactly....gee it's quiet...
<dodo1> gee ... they're reporting opinion polls now !
<NPR_[BBC]> dodo1, do you have any results?
<MupBear> ated channel!it's so quiet cause its a bloody 
   moder
<NPR_[BBC]> NPR: iraquis 34-36 yrs old must report for mil. 
   duty within next 3 days (reserves)
<dodo1> NPR: i switched channels immediately ... u think 
   i'm gonna waste my time listening to how many people 
   thought what Bush did was right ? :)
<MupBear> its so quiet as its a moderated channel
<RELAY> Israel still warning citizens to be on the alert
<dodo1> mup: not quite .... i'd report ... and the others 
   would report ... anything new on the channel ... but there 
   IS NOTHING being reported anywhere !!!
<FinnTV> In Turkey, the bus tickets to the Western 
   countries have been very pricey on the black market for a 
   fortnight
<RELAY> Yes, Mup, we're just quietly and politely waiting...
   without offering too much uninformed opinion
<MupBear> maex: dont want to discuss
<NPR_[BBC]> npr says 700 demonstrators in berlin (others in 
   hamburg, frankfurt, bonn)
<FinnTV> In Turkay, the criticism of Turkey allowing USA 
   airplanes go through Turkey has been very strong.
<NPR_[BBC]> saddam is talking now
<MupBear> relay: ok. thanks
<NPR_[BBC]> (on CNN)
<RELAY> SH is appealing to the sons of the people, nation 
   and armed forces
<NPR_[BBC]> Saddam: "In the name of allah, most mericful 
   and commpassionate..."
<Robert> saddam: Quoting from Koran.  sadaam; Stand up 
   again evil the infidels their sup[porters and their lies
<dodo1> Reagan says war was to be expected ... he heard 
   news on TV
<RELAY> SH: in the name of Allah, we believe...the GREAT 
   IRAQI PEOPLE..stand up against evil and their supporters 
   and Allies.  At 2:30 am tonight (16 Jan) the treacherous 
   foes and Bush the SATAN perpetrated his crime
<Robert> saddam: Bush the satan has purportrated this crime.
     saddam: Callin gon muslem faith, and god for help again 
   "satan"
<RELAY> SH: The faithful & the brave who carried the light 
   of ISLAM to all humanity...were bravely confronting the 
   foes...God supported & guided them
<dodo1> again some rumors that some Iraqi soldiers are 
   surrendering / have surrendered ... CBS just reported this
<RELAY> SH: the criminals are not ashamed of themselves
<Robert> saddam: Mentioning god, faithful and religion a lot
<RELAY> SH: Fahad will rot in hell- he is a treacherous 
   criminal
<Robert> saddam: "God is with us, god is always with the 
   patient the steadfat.  saddam: ....after the defaeth of the 
   satan in the whitehouse, bush....  criminal TelAviv will 
   also be defeated .....adn the arab will be liberated 
   everywhere
<RELAY> SH:Criminal Tel-Aviv will be beaten, the Golan 
   heights will be liberated...All Arabs will be liberated.  
   SH: God is Great, God is Great, God is Great - Victory is 
   there with the support of God
<Robert> He's raving a lot...mentions god and the faithful 
   a hell of a lot
<NPR_[BBC]> bbc says US is leaving door open for iraq to 
   withdraw from kuwait w/o further destruction
<RELAY> The above SH: speech was old news BTW broadcast 
   after 1st wave...
<dodo1> free Kuwait Radio, b-casting from Saudi Arabia: 
   there is ground action ... not yet confirmed by Pentagon ...
    very biased source, please remember
<Robert> Call's the enemies trecherous  and traitors and 
   bush satan
<NPR_[BBC]> every effort is being made keep civ. 
   casualities low (u.n. security council briefing)
<dodo1> daylight raids hitting outskirts of Baghdad
<NPR_[BBC]> dodo1, what's the freq?
<dodo1> NPR: CBS radio reported it
<Robert> Some air battles apparenty..with french fighters...
   as yet unconfirmed
<NPR_[BBC]> gorby will be on in 15 minutes (CNN)
<dodo1> reports of iraqi surrenders also came from Free 
   Kuwait Radio from Saudi Arabia
<RELAY> Australian correspondent in London reporting that 
   some type of retaliation has just begun.  (BY IRAQ)
<dodo1> BBC: 4 french jets hit over occupied Kuwait ... but 
   they returned safely.  they were Jaguars.  some border 
   areas of Jordan hit by bombs and in flames
<NPR_[BBC]> iraqi troops beginning to surrender (CNN) and 
   shelling by iraqi artillery ... also ground activity rumor
<dodo1> probably accidental hits while US pilots were 
   trying to bomb border facilities
<NPR_[BBC]> possibly 530 iraqi aircraft destroyed 
   (immobilized at least) CNN
<dodo1> A pilot says he was surprised at what little 
   resistance he met.  Colonel Don something
<FinnTV> Iraq has drafted all men born in 1954, 55, and 56 
   to the army.
<dodo1> confirmed: battle joined on the ground.  rumor 
   widespread: some iraqi soldiers have started surrendering.  
   demonstrations in New York, Times Square: demonstrators 
   chanting no blood for oil.  President Bush has authorized 
   release of oil from nation's stockpiles for the next 30 days
<Ely> IL: i hear about Irakis artillery bombs some saudi 
   oil equip
<dodo1> no confirmed reports of any saudi oil facilities 
   having been damaged
<Ely> Also , Israeli TV says that there are some ground 
   combat (egypt sources(?))
<Robert> The two major air bases in Kuwait have been taken 
   out
<dodo1> ground movement now confirmed by most sources ... 
   also the surrender of some iraqi soldiers.  one pilot said 
   one, and another pilot said two surface-to-air missiles had 
   been fired.  no damage from them
<NPR_[BBC]> bbc report american planes retaliated against 
   artillary that attacked saudi oil thing  (no further 
   reports... yawn)
<RELAY> Info from RIYADH: In 1 hour, details will be 
   revealed of the artillery attack reported by CBS reporter a 
   few hours ago
<dodo1> war against iraq is 10 hours old
<NPR_[BBC]> no casualities, but tanks on fire in border 
   town btwn SA and kuwait.  (CNN)
<RELAY> CNN relaying allegations that SA troops "ran" from 
   the attack
<NPR_[BBC]> kuwaitee radio says ground forces moving 
   towards kuwait
<RELAY> CNN say Allied ground forces moving into Kuwait
<NPR_[BBC]> airfield near baghdad supposedly suffered 
   direct hit (CNN)
<RELAY> CNN London: Pressure will be exerted along a broad 
   front looking for weaknesses in front lines due to lowered 
   Iq morale
<dodo1> margaret thatcher: in my view dictators don't 
   surrender ... they have to be defeated
<Robert> Tomahawk cruise missiles were used earlier today..
   for strategia/important targets in Baghdad
<dodo1> iraq claims 14 allied planes have been shot down.  
   [comment even they admit only 14 have been shot down ... 
   the real number must be much smaller]
<NPR_[BBC]> gorby's on now
<RELAY> They are running Army recruiting commercials on 
   Aussie TV!
<NPR_[BBC]> MG: in beginnin of iraqi aggression, ussr did 
   all it could tos olve by peaceful means
<FinnTV> Iraqi state radio: "14 allied planes shot down"
<NPR_[BBC]> MG: realizing what consequences for internat'nl 
   situation, we express deep sorry that military 
   confrontation could not be averted
<dodo1> 18000 tons of explosives dropped in first raid ... 
   almost a small nuke in total power
<RELAY> GORBY: warning received 1 hour in advance...
   suggested Bush to contact Hussein...Gorby then contacted 
   Iraq and suggested they withdraw...also contacted China, 
   Italy, France, etc, to attempt to localise the conflict...
   we express deep sorrow that Military
<NPR_[BBC]> MG: I want to inform you that among soviet 
   people who are still in irq, there are no casualities
<yaz/+report> bye
<RELAY> conflict could not be avertted
<dodo1> the one dropped on hiroshima was 20000 tons approx
<NPR_[BBC]> MG: ussr will cooperate w/ UN to stop war if 
   possible
<Robert> Appears ground battle is begining
<RELAY> Cobras, Harriers & A-10s have gone in [News Cable]. 
    (Anti-Tank equipment)
<dodo1> CBS: quting french sources: 12 french planes 
   involved in second raid, 4 hit by ground fire, one pilot 
   slightly injured, all managed to return safely on their own 
   power.  quting=quoting
<Maex> German Radio: Paris says French ground-troups have 
   enemy-contact!
<NPR_[BBC]> iraqi sodiers removing uniforms/putting on civ. 
   clothes (desertion) CNN.  baghdad radio says 14 planes 
   downed in dogfights (enemy planes of verious kinds)  ??  3 
   of them shot down by presidential guard    (??)  (??)
<RELAY> Australian protests:3000 in Sydney,2000 in Brisbane,
   200 in Canberra
<dodo1> tass says the iraqi people will pay a very heavy 
   price for the reckless actions of their leadership.  soviet 
   ambassador took last request from bush to hussein and said 
   "for your own sake, pull out" -tass
<Ely> later.
<RELAY> FLASH: US says no knowledge of ground fighting..
   Pentagon statement
<Maex> French foreign minister says, French troops have!
<Megadeth/+report> News from the Treasury Dept: Money can 
   make you rich! :-)
<dodo1> maex: french troops have what ?
<RELAY> Protests:THERE WERE ~10,000 people in downtown 
   Santa Cruz, a population 45000 city with usual major 
   highways were blocked off,.  +government buildings 
   blockaded, gas stations blockaded.
<Eristetty> Santa Cruz, CA: with a population of 45000, a 
   large percentage of residents are anti-war, some news: 
   major Highway to silicon valley blocked off for a while 
   tonight, anywhere from 10-20000 people protested downtown 
   Santa Cruz, University Of California at u.  oop :)
<RELAY> F15/F18 doing victory rolls over SA - Australian 
   correspondent
<NPR_[BBC]> brent north sea crude down $5.50/barrel
<RELAY> CNN: Oil at 23.50 USD (pre invasion prices)
<NPR_[BBC]> tokyo up 1000+ pts (CNN stock report).  london 
   up 33pts (open for 1 hr)
<RELAY> It's been going for 10.5 Hours now folks.  CNN says 
   ground movements have started, as does BBC, Pentagon 
   denying accuracy of these reports
<Eristetty> 3 high schools and 2 junior high schools in 
   Santa Cruz Conty attracted attention today by walking out 
   of classes and marching to downtown santa cruz where they 
   united with UCSC students for social responsibiltiy
<RELAY> F4/F15 pilots say..."a lot of good adrenalin"...
   "the same adrenalin as a young hunter on his first hunt"
<NPR_[BBC]> CNN just in... (from wire).  bagdad radio ... 
   iraq shot down 14 planes, pentagon not talking about 
   planes/casualties.  (sorry, nothing new)
<Eristetty> A new governmental party claims to be on the 
   verge of going public, Founding mothers and fathers of 
   america, a party dedicated to gradual world disarmorment
<dodo1> second wave of attacks was started about 3 hours ago
<Eristetty> (does anyone have the silver prices)
<FinnTV> fighters have been mainly used by the alliance.  
   'Bagdad was like a Christmas tree'
<dodo1> official line still that americans are gathering 
   information on extent of losses.  britain, kuwait, france 
   have reported no losses.  except for 4 french jaguars being 
   hit.  but they returned safely under their own power
<Eristetty> shalom!
<dodo1> one pilot slightly injured
<RELAY> Pentagon not talking figures, dismissing reports of 
   14 "out of hand"
<dodo1> for political reasons, france has limited its 
   activity to kuwaiti territory
<Robert> Analyst: Pentagon has not as yet given a list of 
   targets hit/destroyed...being very general
<dodo1> 200 people demonstrated on Pennsylvania Avenue 
   outside the White House.  gold is down $20 an ounce
<NPR_[BBC]> dodo1, any violence?
<FinnTV> Iraq Bagdad Ministery of Defence has been 
   destroyed...
<dodo1> NPR: no ... they're singing
<Napoleon> BTW, what was the kilotonnage dropped to Iraq 
   during the first attack wave?
<RELAY> US morning newspapers optimistic
<dodo1> napoleon: 18000 tons.  so that's 18 kilotons
<dodo1:(null)> 2 kilotons below the nuke that was dropped 
   on hiroshima
<dodo1> 2 kilotons below the nuke that was dropped on 
   hiroshima
<Goosie> Heard there were casualties of 150,000 Iraquis 
   (other channel). Can't be true? Any confirmation?
<NPR_[BBC]> 1 out of 40 rounds of iraqi artillery struck 
   half-filled gas tank at saudi border refinery (CNN)
<dodo1> okay guys .... i'm out ... other chanops please 
   take over
<RELAY> ABC reports US technology means that if Irq 
   soldiers use a radio for a few minutes they could die
<NPR_[BBC]> what, relay?
<FrenchRad> 12 Jaguar planes participated in a raid.  
   Curfew on Israel as from 4 am Israeli time.  People urged 
   to take all precautions.  French-US agreement for the 
   French to intervene only in Kuwait.  Explosions still heard 
   in Bagdad
<RELAY> CNN Baghdad reports bombers every 10-15 minutes...
   limited AAA in response...bombing moving outwards from city 
   limits
<FrenchRad> 3 bombs hit the Defense ministry in Bagdad.  
   Iraq reports hitting 14 planes.  Hussain is alive.  On TV, 
   he seemed "determined and resolute".  Israel is spared yet, 
   but fears missiles.  Population asked to prepare gas masks. 
    Syria calm.  in Paris, an antiterrorist plan put into 
   effect.  Cuba and Yemen will propose curfew
<RELAY> US pilots KEESEE and PEMBERTON of 82nd Airborne 
   reported as saying everything is being taken seriously, "We 
   fight as we train" --
<FinnTV> If anyone has been makiong an irclog from the very 
   beginning (12 am GMT), please msg Leopold privatly.
<RELAY> ClancyCNN reports 82nd Airborne carrying Chem suits 
   and taking anti-nerve-gas medication.
<FrenchRad> People think some eaggeration in Pentagon 
   success reports.  Over 1300 airplane sorties planned for 
   the day.  4 Jaguar french airplanes slightly hit, one pilot 
   slightly wounded.  Nuclear and chemical installations, as 
   well as midrange missiles -- were the targets and mostly hit
<RELAY> No injuries reported 82nd Airborne..CNN
<NPR_[BBC]> 82nd airborne are paratroopers (may go into 
   kuwait city rumored)
<RELAY> (paratroopers).  Briefing just finished in 
   Jerusalem - state of alert unlikely to be lifted "in 
   foreseeable future"
<FrenchRad> 50 irqi tanks gave themselves in.  saudi 
   refinery hit.  stock exchanges up ~ 4.5% in Paris and Tokyo
<wiesel> is sadam still alive ???  they sas it is possible 
   that he was killed
<FrenchRad> Sadam said to be alive, seen this morning on 
   Iraqi TV, looking resolute
<wiesel> and his report was made before
<RELAY> Australian correspondent in Jerusalem reports 
   Israel feeling vulnerable -- no confirmation that *all* 
   SCUD sites threatening Israel have been neutralised.  There 
   is heavy censorship of all media reports, but no individual 
   reporters are being tagged
<FrenchRad> Gold down 18%.  Gas down to $23 in Englan
<FinnTV> USA says that absolutely NO  civilian targets have 
   been hit in Iraq.
<Janyst2> CNN 7:30 meeting of Bush, Cheney, and National 
   Security Board
<wiesel>  /m dodo hallo, bad news
<FinnTV> Fidel Castro has been strongly against the USA 
   attack to Iraq.
<Janyst2> CNN State Department says doors are still open 
   for Hussien to talk, as long as the 12 points are met that 
   were discussed earlier
<RELAY> US State dept refusing to link present conflict 
   with general Mid-East problems
<wiesel> they say US planes have destroyed all chem and 
   nuke plants in iraq
<Janyst2> anyone confirm the terrorist attacks in italy?
<FrenchRad> Iraqi artillery attacked a saudi refinery.  
   Sadam H appeared early this morning on Iraqi TV.
<FinnTV> Finnish Red cross sends hospital & personnel to 
   Gulf
<Janyst2> CNN minor resistance of Iraqi forces in Kuwait 
   for air raids, few SAMS, but not much
<RELAY> janyst2: There was a scare in Los Angeles over an 
   Italian aircraft - nothing else so far...
<Janyst2> thanx relay
<FrenchRad> wiesel: who "they say" please say which sources
<RELAY> CBS reports worries for journalists trapped in 
   Baghdad
<CNN> test.  4 french planes hit over Kuwait
<FrenchRad> Itzhak Shamir prudently optimistic.  The 4 
   french planes that were hit returned safely to base, one 
   pilot slitghly injured.  Iraqi army recognizes armed and 
   civilian areas hit
<RELAY> Allen Pizzey CBS Baghdad has driven all around 
   Baghdad - there is no, repeat *no* damage to any buildings 
   in greater Baghdad
<FrenchRad> Pentagon denies 14 planes downed by Irakis
<FinnTV> r_[bbc] Since 1.20 GMT (war started 0:00 gmt). 
   Please no more msgs to this nickname. Use leopold (will be 
   back son) as all we write goes to the logfile.
<RELAY> Iraqi forces reported to have begun shelling behind 
   SA lines (CBS)
<FrenchRad> 50 iraki tanks surrendered on the kuweiti 
   border to the allied forces.  Some iraki shells on a saudi 
   oil refinery not much damage, US responds by heavy fire
<RELAY> LONDON - OIL price brent light crude US$23
<FrenchRad> French gas companies freeze the price of gas
#Maex# link problems ... hold on :-(
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<RELAY> If such missiles exist - Tel Aviv is within range - 
   repeat:speculation only
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<RELAY> NEWS has slowed again...
<NickQuick> But i have send a 120$ cheque to US to register 
   to a programm. I hope the dollar will not fall to much this 
   week
<Mungo> bye ele
<PUCK> what means 45-106 ?
<rex> Any News-Flashes???
<h_report> rex: no news
<MAGGY> What means 45-106 p.e.
<Janyst> just old news on CNN, what about others?
<RELAY> No activity in Lithuania - Gulf news has *really* 
   slowed
<The_Saint> nickquick: check drawn in US funds?
<RELAY> Unconfirmed report journalists injured in Jordan 
   (CNN)
<Penelope>  overdog +report.   Gil-Galad +report
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<RELAY> BBC report from Bahrain - some Allied casualties - 
   low level.  Unconfirmed reports of Iraqi troops deserting
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<RELAY> ABC London - Commanders report casualties..Analysts 
   suggest some Tornados may have been grounded.  This report 
   comes from Royal Air Force Tornado Squadron Commander via 
   BBC via ABC
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<RELAY> White House report - Bush says "things are going 
   exactly as reported" "things are going well"  Bush's 
   advisors will be meeting with him in next couple of hours.  
   US newspapers:  NY Times 'No Choice but force'  NY Post 'US 
   Jets blast Baghdad'.  Unconfirmed report from Suadi 
   *UNCONFIRMED* as many as 50 Iraqi tanks have surrendered to 
   Saudis
<Juice> YLE: The Iraqi Defense Ministry has been hit by 
   three bombs
<RELAY> CNN Baghdad: Saddam's Party HQ directly hit
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<Listening> Hmmm..first bomb-warnings in Germany, Bad Toelz.
    dpa, i guess.
<RELAY> CNN Baghdad: Saddam was sighted thismorning..
   currently 2:10pm in Baghdad - population seems calm
<Listening> peace!
<lolo> what about those planes shot down? is that true?
<RELAY> CNN crew in Baghdad report they are moving freely 
   around Baghdad, some reporters are leaving with Iraqi 
   government assistance.  CBS Washington reports Iraqi border 
   forces may still be operational - B52's may be sent in to 
   neutralise.  Pentagon officials reported as being "happy 
   with" developments.  Confirmed reports of some Iraqi 
   shelling, but no direct ground combat.  Most action is 
   still in the air...  SweTV reports : Japanese owned oil 
   refinery hit by Iraqi missile -- confirmed by the Japanese. 
    +owners
<FrenchRad> Iraqis launched rocket attack on japanese oil 
   company.  Bombing continues on Iraq right now.
<RELAY> Australian TV reports massive tension in Jordan.  
   Also reports "almost the complete Iraqi airforce has been 
   wiped out"
<FrenchRad> Apparently presiedential palace in Bagdad hit.  
   People wonder about Iraq's reaction -- none so far.  CNN: ~ 
   50 iraqi tanks surrendered to the allied forces
<RELAY> Unconfirmed from IRC no japanese casualties on Oil 
   plant
<FrenchRad> Apparently most iraqi missile bases targeted 
   towards Israel have been destroyed
<RELAY> CNN reporting from Eastern SA, says expectations 
   are that Iraqi soldiers will be "defecting in their 
   thousands"
<FrenchRad> Gorbatchev says he's been informed 1 hr before 
   the war started.
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<RELAY> Hey they've all gone again
<FrenchRad> John Major was informed Tuesday evening about 
   the time of the attack.  Says "it's an ongoing operation."
<RELAY> Australian 707 for evacuation has been delayed in 
   Bombay - refused refuelling
<FrenchRad> A british Tornado has disappeared
<Juice> Saddam adviced the US troops to retreat
<FrenchRad> An american F15 went down in the Gulf.  Crew 
   managed to eject.  Pentagon (CNN): ground offensive not 
   earlier than 1 week.
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<NPR_[BBC]> Frenchrad, who said the british plane 
   disappeared?  Who sunk the US plane?
<FrenchRad> CNN: US controls the skies.  French Radio 
   citing many sources
<RELAY> CBS New York is reporting the plight of Arab 
   Americans - they are praying for civilians in the area
<FrenchRad> 40 cruise missiles launched from american ships.
     Jordanian palestinians (> 50% of the population) despair 
   because of Sadam's defeat
<RELAY> Donald Rumsfeld (Former US Defense Secy) says there 
   probably won't be any pause in air attacks until all 
   possible damage has been inflicted.  Then, once muscle has 
   been flexed, Iraqi troops will be given a chance to 
   surrender.  Unconfirmed reports GR1 lost in Gulf (French 
   wire)
<FrenchRad> Palestinians expulsed from Gulf emirates, 
   Egyptian border almost totally closed to them.  Routing of 
   Iraq signifies end to palestinian revolution
<Juice> Iraq has drafted all men born 1954-1956 (YLE)
<FrenchRad> Stock exchanges: up in Paris and Tokyo (4.5%). 
   London (2.1%) Frankfurt (6%).  Saudi Arabia announced keeps 
   up its oil production
<RELAY> US Boston Herald Headline "WE WILL NOT FAIL"  Many 
   US newspaper editorials are supportive of war effort
<FrenchRad> International Energy Agency starts emergency 
   plan.
<RELAY> Australian TV relaying 2-man crew in the Tornado 
   may have been lost
<FinnTV> Eyal: Tell about the feelings in Israel.  And 
   situation
<Eyal> This is a report from the Israeli front:  The 
   feelings of the people over here are very calm but still 
   alert.
<FrenchRad> Sadam Hussain just spoke on Iraqi radio.  "One 
   must put shoulders together against the mecreants"
<Eyal> We are very proud of our American allies who did 
   this great work of saving us a war, thank you very much all.
<FrenchRad> Sadam on radio: US attacked with Zionists.  
   Sadam: War for arab nation has started
<RELAY> UN meeting: There was no call for an immediate 
   cease-fire.  The Cuban delegate to UN says he has voted 
   against all UN decisions.  If any member nation asks for a 
   cease-fire it must be considered.  UN is still saying 
   they'll continue until Iraq leave Kuwait
<FrenchRad> Sadam: Iraqi fighters everywhere stood up to 
   all aggressors who tried to beat Iraq.  Sadam: Iraki 
   fighters fought like lions and will defend Islam no matter 
   what cost.  Sadam: will defend islam holy sites and give a 
   lesson to Fahd the saudi traitor.  Sadam: Fahd is a traitor.
    Our victory is certain since God is with us
<Eyal> My opinion: Saddam Hussain should be captured and 
   convicted for his crimes.
<FrenchRad> Sadam: We will have glory and victory.  Please 
   don't give  personal opinions here just reports
<RELAY> CENSORSHIP: Jordanian govt has announced no TV 
   crews will be permitted free movement anywhere in Jordan - 
   and will be subject to arrest if they do so.
<Eyal> French: Fine, was just some feelings i guess.
<RELAY> JORDAN: ABC reports animosity from Jordanian 
   citizenry toward journalists.
<Eyal> We all have our masks beside us and ready for a 
   chimical attack if there will be any.
<FrenchRad> Most reports about waht really happened in Iraq 
   say sites were "probably", "likely" destroyed.  No hard 
   facts or numbers yet.  Iraq attacked a saudi refinery and a 
   japanese platform.  Platform hit but no casualties
<Juice> Arafat has condemned the attack calling it a 
   cowardly act
<FrenchRad> Irani news: US F15 downed in gulf, pilot 
   ejected.  Pope hopes war ens quickly.  Pope hopes war ends 
   quickly.  Have to quit now.  Bye.
<Eyal> We are not scared but we are just taking cautions 
   since we have learned from other wars not to get happy 
   before it's all over.
<Juice> The refinery is still operating, but maybe not for 
   long
<RELAY> CBS State Dept correspondent says there is a slight 
   expectation Saddam may "suddenly surrender"
<Juice> Saddam: Mother of all battles has begun
<RELAY> LATEST HEADLINES: Bombings continue, casualties low 
   - Bush is "happy" - Saddam refuses to consider surrender
<Eyal> There are planes flying all the time around here 
   just in case of an attack.
<RELAY> Tokyo stock exchange closed up 4.5% on opening 
   Nikkei
<Dov> A.  Appparently, there is a communication problem 
   between CNN TV reporters and correspondents in Baghdad.
<RELAY> ABC USA New York: After the "heaviest air attack in 
   history" all planes from 1st sortie returned.  The world 
   stock exchanges have started to "roller-coaster" with 
   reports of possible losses of Allied aircraft.  (from the 
   2nd sortie)
<Eyal> Some people didn't sleep all night but most of them 
   went to sleep now.
<RELAY> CNN Baghdad says Defence Ministry has been 
   destroyed.  Peter Arnett in Baghdad says chances of getting 
   video of Baghdad are low, communication centres not working 
   well, videos are being sent overland to Amman, Jordan for 
   worldwide b'cast.  CNN Baghdad crew are nervous, but still 
   very professional.  They say there are 45 journalists in 
   Baghdad from foreign countries.  Iraqi radio is slowly 
   getting back into operation.  Diplomatic negotiations still 
   going on over Australian Air Force B707 stranded in Bombay 
   due to refusal of refueling facilities.  AUSTRALIAN TV 
   report there has been NO collision of Australian ships in 
   the Gulf
<Eyal> Keep up the good work guys, and be justice between 
   us all.  Signing off from Israel...
<Dov> Trails of flashes of light seen in Baghdad -- no 
   knowledge of bombing.  (According to CNN)
<RELAY> CBS report that Iraq report of 14 aircraft grounded 
   is not true.  One French pilot sustained "slightly" hurt.  
   All Jaguars returned safely.  CHINA has appealed to both 
   sides to "exercise restraint" --- 500,000 Iraqi troops are 
   on SA border (AUSTRALIAN TV).  ABC USA reports the initial 
   Air-strike "continues vigorously".  CNN Baghdad: Skies have 
   been quiet for 1.5 hours.  Reporters have been out on the 
   streets, BAATH party HQ destroyed, also Chemical plant to 
   North of City levelled.
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<RELAY> CNN: Kissinger interview shortly...  ***********13 
   HOURS*************
<NPR_[BBC]> well, I'm going to leave. I've been up for 24 
   hours.  Someone take over NPR for if you will... bye.
<RELAY> CAN ANYBODY MONITOR NPR?  Ministry of Defense 
   appears to be only target in residential Baghdad that has 
   been hit.  Many targets in less populated areas have been 
   "surgically" neutralised.  One US pilot said some aircraft 
   headed north toward Turkey, but no contact.  An F15 pilot 
   STEVE TATE of Michigan shot a Sparrow at an Iraqi aircraft -
    it exploded and disintegrated into the ground.  The 
   UNCONFIRMED report of North-heading jets referred to IRAQI 
   jets. (ABC).  THEREHAS NOT BEEN OFFICIAL NEWS FOR A WHILE - 
   Press conference due in Suadi Arabia due in 15 minutes.  
   CNN Kissinger interview: Iraqi surrenders can be expected 
   soon.  SH cannot resist for a sustained period.  CNN London:
    Air Chief Marshall HIND has reported attacks on IRAQI 
   airfields and Radar.  The efficiency is impressive - Allied 
   attcks with hundreds of AC in the air simulataneusly.  CNN 
   LONDON continuing: Detailed preparation has paid off.  
   Raids are continuing at a high rate.  There have been false 
   alarms about SCUD attacks.  The Iraqi's seem to have been 
   caught by surprise.  CNN London: There have been no 
   Contacts over Iraq.  CNN London: Key elements of planning 
   have been to minimise civilian casualties.  There was an 
   engine fire in the GR1 (Tornado) which may or may not have 
   been due to enemy action.  CNN London continuing: Tom King 
   (Defense secretary) This is very early days. We have 
   significantly damged Iraq defenses, but they may be 
   conserving their resources.  It's an encouraging start, but 
   it is early.
<Dov> mode change ucselx.sdsu.edu +report +shamash
<RELAY> UNCONFIRMED from correspondent in Riyadh: 
   Allied/Iraqi AC contacts may have started UNCONFIRMED.  9 
   minutes until US press release in SA.  ITN UK: Iraqi 
   Ambassador has publicly stated that Iraq was damaged in air-
   strikes.  SH=Saddam Hussein AC=Aircraft AAA=Anti-Aircraft-
   Artillery.  DAVID HACKWORTH says SH won't have a chance in 
   the air.       RELAY going for a while - FrenchRad can take 
   over? - 10 minutes....  Back in 10 minutes
<lynx> Has someone patched ircII to silence the signoff and 
   mode change messages?
<RELAY> Can other Oper take over - BYE for now
<FrenchRad> 18000 tons of boms estimated dropped on Iraq.  
   Bagdad bombed every 15 minutes.  Pentagon: heavy casulaties 
   in Iraqi armies.  CNN: 50 iraqi tanks surrendered.  Sadam 
   on iraqi radio: Iraq won't give up. War has started.  Sadam:
    iraqi soldiers fought like lions.  Pentagon: one US 
   airplane lost.  Ryad: panic among foreigners still 
   unequiped with masks.  French oil companies freeze their 
   prices
<RELAY> SH is saying the Satan in the Whitehouse will be 
   overthrown.  CHANEY has confirmed one US AC has been 
   grounded by Iraqi defenses
<FrenchRad>         WASHINGTON (UPI) -- The cost of a war 
   against Iraq could add from $28.  billion to $86 billion to 
   the military budget, according to a.  congressional 
   analysis.          The Congressional Budget Office, in a 
   staff report, said that added.  costs for Operation Desert 
   Shield -- if the war started soon -- would.  total between 
   $17 billion and $35 billion in the current fiscal year.  
   that ends Sept. 30.  CNN: allied forces control the skies.
<RELAY> KISSINGER is saying WAR may be over within 2 weeks
<FrenchRad> Iraqi airplane fdowned by Sparrow missile from 
   US F15 in air
<lynx> No unnecessary nickname changes, pls.
<FrenchRad> CNN: Iraqi defense ministry in Bagdad destroyed.
     Brit defense ministr: 1 UK Tornado plane and its crew 
   disappeared after one motor went on fire
<RELAY> KISSINGER: There has been a general OVERestimation 
   of Iraqi forces, by everyone.  Now that the War Machine 
   which was developed to fight the Soviets has been turned on 
   Iraq, the UN forces will destroy the offensive capabilities 
   of Iraq.  KISSINGER: But their defensive capabilities must 
   be maintained, otherwise other regional countries could 
   attack Iraq
<Maex> NDR (germany) UNCONFIRMED iraqi air-attack to south 
   of saudi-arabia
<RELAY> PENTAGON: Confirmation of F15 lost over Kuwait.  
   Status of aircrew unknown.  US Military briefing in SA 
   still awaited.
<FrenchRad> TASS: Sadam H palace hit
<RELAY> US Media: Washington Post "US ALIIES LAUNCH MASSIVE 
   ATTACK"
<FrenchRad> Close flying of american air planes in the last 
   week caused the Iraqi to go on high alert and start lots of 
   electronic equipment, which allowed US forces to find their 
   frequencies and jam them this morning.  Radars were both 
   jammed and fed with incorrect info.  Iraqi radio jammed too
<lynx>
<FrenchRad> UK journalist: Bagdad bery badly hit
<RELAY> ABC report "very formidable" capabilities still 
   remain in Iraqi armoury.  Their Artillery is very powerful. 
    All missile locations are not yet known.
<FrenchRad> US navy had launched Tomahawk missiles against 
   iraqi military installation.  US: Bush is about to have 
   breakfast (serious...!)
<RELAY> SA US MILITARY BRIEFING: Col. SCOTT:  DESERT STORM 
   began today
<Waldi> NDR: Bagdad tolds about 14 Jets from the allies 
   destroyed
<FrenchRad> Israel: Defense minister says danger cannot yet 
   be dismissed
<RELAY> briefing: Massive strike - over 750 sorties by US, 
   UK, SA, French & Kuwait AC
<FrenchRad> Pope: call to peace.  US denies info about 14 
   downed jets
<RELAY> BRIEF: Limited response & minimal resistance
<FrenchRad> Gorbatchev said he tried one hour before the 
   war to convince Hussain to announce retreat from Kuwait
<RELAY> BRIEF: US used F15, F16, F4g, A10, F111, F117, B52, 
   F18, Harriers, A7, A6, AH64
<Waldi> NDR: stores in Turkey - east are closed
<RELAY> They used guided and unguided missiles, as well as 
   Tomahawks.  Early indications are encouraging
<FrenchRad> EEC foreign and defence ministers meet today in 
   paris
<RELAY> F15 Eagles, F14 Tomahawks & also Hornets provided 
   cover for attack AC.  WW type AC also used
<FrenchRad> France on alert against potential terrorism
<RELAY> AIR REFUELLERS FROM FRENCH AIRFORCE USED< ALSO 
   FRENCH JAGUARS
<FrenchRad> Kuwaitis in France jubilant about the war
<RELAY> There have been NO reports of SCUD launches.  US 
   citizens in region are advised to stay at home.  GOALS: 
   Iraq must leave Kuwait
<FrenchRad> Here report of ~5 skud launches, none hitting 
   close home
<RELAY> GOALS:Restore government of Kuwait
<Waldi> NDR: launching 5 Scuds - one hit near Riad
<RELAY> "The Prez, congress, Americans and all people stand 
   united...May God be with you..".  That was Lt. Col. Mike 
   SCOTT
<Waldi> NDR: no attack from Turkey
<FrenchRad> US F15 downed.  UK Tornado lost.
<RELAY> No questions from reporters were entertained after 
   that statement.
<FrenchRad> 18,000 tons = 1.5 x Hiroshima bom -- already 
   dropped.  Pentagon: Iraqi airforce virtually wiped out.  
   Prez guard too
<Maex> 269 users, 107 servers, 158 +report
<Waldi> NDR: in Munic: resignation of the people.  3SAT: 4 
   french airplanes hit
<RELAY> TO ANYONE STILL READING:  The following messages 
   are being forwarded by anonymous members of this net: 
   please take note.  This war won't end in 2 hours like a war 
   movie.  things won't happen that.  +quickly either...  the 
   media tend to encourage one to think every minutesomething 
   happens.  these are REAL people  DYING*...  go back home
<Waldi> NDR USA said: there are not 14 Jets lost - thats 
   what Iraq said
<RELAY> Sit back.  These were messages I was asked to 
   forward
<Waldi> RTL: Sondersendung um 18:45
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<lolo> does anybody have any objections to -m'ing this 
   channel?
<rama> e fur D1
<h_report> fine ... any news ??
<rama> sorry
<lolo> all flamers: we have a moderated channel without 
   chop at every burp!
<Ulises> lolo: don't think that's a good idea, some ppl 
   have logs of this channel running, expecting only news here
<jlavi>  ANTEK +report.   Arne +report.   Over +report.   
   pekoil +report
<jlavi/+report>  ei-hop +report.   log +report.   zaphod2 
   +report.   Met +report
<Waldi> WDR: Dollar: 1,54 DM
<PeaceServ> Wallops from msa: hmm.. +report channel has 
   become useles? nobody is reporting anymore.... :)
<Maex>          -- SUMMARY of last hours --               ( 
   various sources )
<Maex>
<Maex> +++  4 French aircrafts hit, 1 pilot injured 
   slightly! All 4 returned.  +++  French foreign minister 
   reports enemy contact of French ground-troops!  +++  1 
   British Tornado missing after fire in engine (reason 
   unkown).  +++  1 American F14 missing!  +++  18 000 tons of 
   bombs till now!  +++  Iraqi airforce nearly completely 
   destroyed!  +++  lauching of 5 Iraqi SCUDs not confirmed!  
   +++  Saddam Hussein says: "The mothe of all battles has 
   begun! Iraqi soldiers.           fight like lions! We will 
   win!".  +++  Kissinger says: "Battle maybe over within 14 
   days!"
<Waldi> 1 Scud could hit near RIAD I heard
<madguitar> Waldi : that's unconfirmed by now
<Waldi> mad: they said it on radio
<PeaceServ> Wallops from Avalon: anybody know where 
   fairhope.andrew.cmu.edu is geographically ?? now is *NOT* a 
   good time for links to be just anywhere.  Wallops from msa: 
   Avalon, now is *also* not good time to squit links, even if 
   seeminly bad! Maybe very hard to get up once broken...
<sachz> cnn: can hear aircrafts overhead. [3 reporters]
<Waldi> no news from here until 15:00 MEZ
<Tyrant> Any reports on the CNN people at the hotel?
<Waldi> no news until 15:00 MEZ from here
<sachz> cnn people at hotel: are on cnn now.  somebody give 
   the report. I am preoccupied :(
<Tyrant> help ircii
<Waldi> nothing to say about lost.  1 Britain Tornado hit.  
   no ground attacks.  until now.  hits to Bagdad.  they said 
   the iraqi air force is mostly destroyed - new wave of 
   attacks - allied forces have the Power on air.  Saddam said:
    they hit civil targets - they wont go back
<BrokeII> Some telephone lines to Baghdad still running, 
   but all other.  +communications cut.  No Tomahawk video yet.
   ..over 100 Tomahawk Land Attack Missiles.  +(T-LAM) used
<Waldi> CNN tanks of a raffinerie hit
<BrokeII> 12 French Jaguar jets attacked targets in Iraq
<x_n> No attack on Israel so far; Israeli officials 
   discourage any.  +celebration
<Waldi> Gorbatschov: Saddam is the agressor
<x_n> afn/pentagon : the operation is still an air 
   operation.  Soviet troops on southern border nearest Iraq 
   on highest alert.  AFN/PENTAGON: there might be othe plane 
   damages of the USAF.  Chinese govt calls for restraint on 
   both sides.  <Lux_BBC> Lybia says attack should be isolated 
   to liberation of Kuwait.  <Lux_BBC> Jordan says US action 
   is "naked act of aggression".  <Lux_BBC> North Sea oil down 
   $5-6 per barrel
<lolita/+report> hej...
<x_n> <Lux_BBC> Over 1000 air-sorties in 14 hours of 
   operation so far (Pentagon).  <Lux_BBC> 1 US plane lost, 1 
   British plane lost.  <Lux_BBC> Pentagon: will hit targets a 
   second time if necessary.  <Lux_BBC> Pentagon: Operation 
   will continue until Saddam is forced out of.  <so_AFN> 
   AFN/PENTAGON: they couldn't distroy the mobile launche 
   system of the.  +iraquis.  <Lux_BBC> Bush & Major planned 
   operation about a month ago if deadline was.  +reached.  
   <so_AFN> AFN/PENTEGON: the iraquis airforce isnot destroyed 
   fully.  <Lux_BBC> Major: No stop in operation for 
   negotiations
<France> According to military experts -- biggest air raid 
   in history
<PeaceServ> Wallops from Kaizzu: lehtori.tut.fi going down 
   for benchmarks...
<France> Iraqi air force almost did not react except downed 
   a US F15 killing its pilot
<x_n> <Lux_BBC> British public opinion strongly behind 
   military action
<PeaceServ> Wallops from Phaedrus: a useful thing to do may 
   be to check for ghosts on your servers and dispatch with 
   them...  there has been a lot of ghosting going on.
<x_n> <Lux_BBC> Criticism of operation from German 
   government and opposition
<France> Moves of UK troops  in S.A. - 7th brigade -- noted.
     Military terminal at Bagdad airport out of commission
<x_n> <Lux_BBC> 80% of Germans against use of military force
<France> Several oil platforms are ablaze
<x_n> there are o lot of demonstrations going on in germany.
   ..  <Lux_BBC> US has no interest in destroying Iraq as a 
   country.  <so_AFN> AFN/PENTAGON: they not confirm that 
   there is a ground move
<France> Cheney: estimates US losses to 1 plane + 1 pilot
<x_n> <Lux_BBC> sorry, German govt supports action; 
   opposition opposes
<France> Cheney: UK losses 1 plane +crew
<x_n> <Lux_BBC> Bush says attacks going well
<France> War good for money: most stock exchanges up.
<lynx2> One polit. in german TV told germans to be careful 
   about judging, since SH might have become a much bigger 
   danger to the planet if he given time would have managed  
   to get hold of sbig nuclear weapons
<x_n> <so_AFN> AFN/PENTAGON: ove
<France> Sure values go down: gold and swiss franc
<x_n> <Lux_BBC> Allied reports suggested that 1st wave 
   devastated Iraqi fdefences.  <Teknomage> CNN::unconfirmed 
   report of 50 iraqi tank crews deserting...  <hunted> 
   "NICOSIA -AP- Abulsalam Jalloud, right-hand man of Libyan 
   leader.  +Moammar"<hunted> "Gadhafi, warned that Muslims 
   would wage a Holy War to expel the.  +U.S.-led".  <hunted> 
   "allied forces from Saudi Arabia, Tehran radio reported 
   today.".  <Lux_BBC> BBC World Service Gulf coverage now 
   taking half-hour break
<France> G'al Collin Powell: 80% of sorties are efficient. 
   rest of 20% problems (meteorological, mechanical etc...).  
   Gal. Powell: preliminary results only.  Over 750 sorties by 
   now.  Limited Iraqi response.  Ground offensive not 
   starting in less than a week, US sources estimate.  Bye now.
     Remember: this is not a movie.  It won't be over in 2 
   hours, and events won't happen as often as in a movie.
<x_n>  <Lux_CNN> Israeli Govt - US attack effective, but 
   Iraqi attack at Israel still.  +possible
<lynx2> -Teknomage- SH:::unconfiremed...50 Iraqi tank crews 
   deserted...from Egyptian.              News
<x_n> <Lux_CNN> Tel Aviv very quiet
<Maex> Gun camera footage and footage from the ground in 
   Iraq supposedly should be available tinoght.
<Sweden> Yitzak Rabin: First battle does not win a war.
<Maex> (Stealth:+WAR) Two pilots were rescued from the gulf.
     (Stealth:+WAR) One British plane is missing as well, no 
   information on the pilots
<Sweden> Kuwait was often criticised by other Arab 
   countries because guest workers to Kuwait (about half the 
   population) had no citizens rights.  Rumours that Kuwaiti 
   population registers have been destroyed.
<PeaceServ> Wallops from Stealth: Where is BYU.edu located, 
   please?  Wallops from nic.funet.fi: Received SQUIT otax.tky.
   hut.fi from *.joensuu.fi[joyds3.joensuu.fi]
<Sweden> Swedish PTT installs new phone lines at Swedish 
   Army UN dept because so many want to work at the MASH 
   Sweden is sending to the Gulf area.  MASH= Mobile Army 
   Surgery Hospital
<Maex> <Lux_CBS> 10 Italian fighter-bombers going under US 
   command
<PeaceServ> Wallops from jon: what is thie 
   +report/peaceserv thing? What is the point?
<Maex> <Lux_CNN> Local stn now says US jet down is F18 
   Hornet
<Sweden> Powell: 80 % (or more) hit rate.
<Maex> <Lux_CNN> **MILITARY BRIEFING FROM SAUDI ARABIA on 
   CNN**.  <Lux_BBC> Iraqi Defence HQ hit by 3 Cruise missiles
<Sweden> Gorby is polling Euro Comunity leaders to seek 
   some kind of peace initiative (for the Gulf war).
<Terra> PDS-Chief Gyse said that the war have only econmic 
   reason (PDS is the communist/socialist party in the FDR)
<PeaceServ> Wallops from msa: About increasing SendQ buffer 
   limit in backbones? What value people have started using? 
   40KBytes? 64Kbytes? 100Kbytes?
<Terra> Aeh. FDR = FRG = Germany
<Maex> <Lux_CNN> Some oil installations in Baghdad hit in 
   raids
<Terra> Belgium and Italian forces now under command of US-
   Army
<Maex> <Lux_BBC> Saddam responds with defiant statesments 
   that US forces will be crushed.  <Lux_BBC> Iraqi Radio 
   claims 14 aircraft shot down.  <Lux_BBC> attacks on Baghdad 
   have now ceased.  <Lux_BBC> Damage restricted to immediate 
   areas around strategic installations
<CBS_radio> US DoD says 1 US and 1 Brit. plane shot down.
<Maex> <Lux_BBC> Tunisia asks for killing to stop, to 
   resume talks
<lynx/+report> Should PeaceServ stop sending Wallops to the 
   channel? /m lynx your opinion.
<Maex> <Lux_BBC> Attacks on Iraqi western missile sights 
   have yet to be evaluated
<lynx/+report> I find a lot of indecision - Those who do 
   not want it use /ignore peaceserv public please
<PeaceServ> Wallops from Crawdad: What's a good value for 
   the ircd send queue size today?  I need to recompile...  
   Wallops from Armin: I would suggest not more than 64K..
<lynx/+report> No it has no sense to dump these wallops, it 
   was useful yesterday when they did reports via /wallops, no 
   more wallops via peaceserv.
<CBS_radio> Marine fighter & British bomber destroyed.  
   Captain Steve Tate destroyed Iraqi F-1 heading toward Bag.  
   used Fox1 missile at range of 4 miles,.  50 Iraqi tank crew 
   surrendered.  raids continuing... refinery hit.  (next CBS 
   report 9:40 central)
<mk/+report> channel.  join +report
<Maex> anyone out there with a radio/tv to provide news?
<Armin> Patch for IRC-II2.02 available: You may set /on 
   ^quit * /comment, so you dont get signoffs from a channel, 
   available via anon-ftp on 131.159.0.10, file 
   /net/irc/ircII2.02-changes.tar.Z, follow instructions inside
<sachz> armin: nice :)
<CBS_radio> Gephardt says declaration of war unnecessary.
<Rambo> RAI news: famous italians reporter hitten in Amman.
<sachz> John Major saying something in British Parliment.  
   late news [cnn].  the three cnn journalists are ordered to 
   stop broadcasting.. they're pleading not to.  [thats it]
<lynx/+report> strikes seem to be nicely surgical, avoiding 
   residential areas.
<Crawdad> (sommon -> common)
<lynx/+report> ndr-radio: turkish people escaping from the 
   iraq-border in western direction
<sachz> iraqi tv: shows saddam praying.  iraqu tv: 
   currently.  [on cnn].  cnn reporters will cease 
   transmission as of now.  2:56 AEST
<lynx/+report> <TeknoCNN> There have been live 
   transmissions on CNN all the while...IRAQ is now cutting 
   them.             off
<sachz> reporters offline due to government censorship. 
   [thats why :)]
<lynx/+report> TeknoCNN> they just took their transmissio 
   equipment, no more live broadcasts, they will be allowed to 
   release tapes,but they will be checked over
<Crawdad> Possibly related item?  "Connectivity between the 
   NSFNet and the Milnet has not been available since 22:00 
   EST on 1/16/91."  (But it's back now)
<sachz> shopov.  m.  *ohno*
<FinnTV> 80% of the allied forces' air strikes have 
   succeeded.
<Spooky> CNN has reported that a group of 50 Iraqui tanks 
   has surrendered to Egyptian forces in SA.  Is there any 
   additional information or confirmation of this report 
   available?
<raw_fish/+report> ABC Radio here in pittsburgh confirms 
   the alleged iraqi defection
<lynx/+report> US has over 400K troops ready to go-go.  
   Scratch> CNN quote from Shaw (or one of the other two):  
   They were going to work with the iraquis at their tv 
   station, since their comm link was shut down by the "post 
   office".  Scratch> Turkey president: "I am on the side of 
   the United Nations".  Scratch> "I think he [Hussein] cannot 
   survive anymore."  Turkey Pres.
<NPR> FAA imposed airport security measures - no curbside 
   checkin, no non-passengers inside concourses.  CBS says 
   allies about to launch a ground attack on Kuwait!  CNN 
   reporters shut down by Baghdad
<Spooky> CNN claims they will have video from the attack 
   within the hour.
<Scratch/+report> Prince Hassan:  "Equivalent to Hiroshima."
<raw_fish/+report> AT&T reports that all its telephone 
   lines to iraq are down
<Scratch/+report> Prince Hassan: "A casualty of the crisis.
   "  (on CNN censorship)
<NPR> Hassan also: "There has been no Jordanian engagement".
     Stock market going way up.
<Scratch/+report> No pix until tomorrow....US Military has 
   the video footage.
#Ilham# i am restarting garfield.mit.edu irc server with a 
   bigger buffer .... sorry for the net.burp
<NPR> Anti-war protesters broke into the admin building at 
   U of Chicago - tried to get into the president's office, 
   but didn't get that far.
<Scratch/+report> "over 100 tomahawk missiles fired."  :CNN
<Spooky> CNN: American plane is down, survivors spotted, 
   rescue forces responding, trying to get to survivors before 
   Iraqis.
#johnnyb# Attention: If your server is having problems 
   connecting, you are free to use helium.elec.ufl.edu, reef.
   cis.ufl.edu, and other open client servers.
<NPR> Dow up 90 points.  oil now at $23.Xx a barrel
<CNN> Interest rates up, gold price down, dollar strong
<raw_fish/+report> ABC Radio reports that the pentagon 
   denied the reports of iraqi defection
<CNN> Iran says Iraqi TV went off the air very suddenly
<ABC-2hand> A-10 was used against Iraqi ground forces to 
   auppress counteroffensives
<CBS> massive arrests of demonstrators expected in San 
   francisco
<NPR> "We keep hearing and hearing stories of defections - 
   is there any way to [verfiy them]?"  "Not yet"
<CNN> CNN expects to have their tapes from Baghdad shown 
   from Jordan soon
<Warlock> i heard that an iraqi tank troop surrendered to 
   egyptian forces.
<NPR> Live from Tel-Aviv: "Nothing is going on here."  
   "Nothing has happened that affects this country."
<hunted/+report> NPR: Netherlands forces just placed 
   themselves under allied command.  NPR: Italy and Canada are 
   prepared in case they are needed..
<raw_fish/+report> crude oil has droped to beloe $23/barrel
<hunted/+report> NPR: Dow Jones Industrial Ave up 92
<ABC2> Saddam hussein was seen on the streets today.
<NPR> Ambassador from Jordan says conditions in Jordan are 
   very calm
<ABC2> (free kuwait (slanted info?)) kuwaiti student 
   describing situation there:  it's a little calm in kuwait 
   today.  According to hospital there are alot of casualties. 
    (in hundreds) The casualties are iraqi soldiers.
<NPR> (Jordanian ambassador) "Our position ... has been 
   quite clear - Jordan will not be used as a road in this 
   conflict, either by land or by air"
<ABC2> New York Post has front page with Huuuuge lettering 
   that reads "KISS IT GOODBYE" and a large picture of Saddam 
   kissing the ground.
<Frodo> CNN: fights in Kuwait City caused by the resistance 
   movement.
<NPR> NPR "Town meeting of the air" to begin soon.  I'll 
   tell you the toll-free number you can call to ask questions 
   of their panel
<Unix/+report> off iraq radio "IRAQ shot down 44 allied 
   aircraft and 23 missles" - hmmmm bs!
#Hamlet# Just if you want to know...the Kuwaiti Ambassador 
   to the US is speaking on TV :-)
#Hamlet# On CNN :-)
<NPR> Iraq claims 23 of their civilians killed, 66 wounded 
   in attacks on towns & villages
<hunted/+report> NPR:bagdad radio says women and children 
   killed in attacks on villages
<Swan> (CNN) kuwaiti ambassador: "I also have an update 
   here on the status of the military operation, in addition 
   to the statement issued I would add that we have been 
   monitoring operation desert storm closely over the psat two 
   days.  thus far i would report that one of our planes has 
   not returned to our base and the pilot has ejected over the 
   saudi/kuwaiti border.  also there are reports of iraqi 
   defections in kuwait but I hasted to add that the numbers 
   are so far unconfirmed.  To conclude this let me say on 
   behalf of my people and govt we are greatful to all our 
   brothers, allies and friends led by the USA and.  our 
   brothers in saudi arabia in coming to our assistance to 
   liberate kuwait.  We hope this will conclude quickly and 
   decisively.  (questions from reporters now).  kuwaiti amb 
   to us: (ground action?)  "we have no confirmation of ground 
   action."
<Uranus> Hi complx...
<LogServ> hi
<pepe> Wie kann man auf ein File zugreifen das ein 'blank" 
   im Namen hat?
<LogServ> wer hat details von den Unis ? Stuttgart hat nen 
   Streik beschlossen...  pepe: mit wildcards, z.B. barf?barf
<Guenthi> pepe: In Anfuehrungszeichen schreiben.
<Terra> com: Hier auch. Allerdings heisst es "Raum fuer 
   Freiraeume" aber das ergebnis ist gleich. Erstmal fuer eine 
   Woche.
<LogServ> genau, heir auch fuer eine woche. Die haben ja 
   alle SOOO ein vertrauen in die "allierten Streitkraefte", 
   dasz es in einer woche vorbei ist :)
<Terra> com: :-)
<LogServ> ich werde versuchen, nen ftp-directory auf der 
   rusmv1 zu bekommen...
<Terra> *gaehn*
<pepe> Guenthi: z.B. "eins zwei"? weil 'eins zwei' ging 
   nicht
<LogServ> aber gerade jetzt zieht die rusmv1 auf einen 
   neuen processor/host :).  laeuft auf report nix ?  hmm, ich 
   kuck mal auf +WAR
<Some1> frodo: thanx
<CaptainJ> IRAQ HAD F-1 MIRAGES TOO.  I LIKE MY CAPS LOCK.  
   :)
<lisbet> Caps lock please
<WinterMut> carpet bombing is MASS bombing using heavy 
   bombers
<CaptainJ> NO.
<LogServ> on sci.military a list of forces in the gulf was 
   posted. FYI.  on sci.military a list of forces in the gulf 
   was posted. FYI.  hmm
<kit> stridre: *grin*
<CaptainJ> YES.
<PeaceServ/+WAR> Report from Swan: various officials from 
   all over echo the sentiment that things are not going to be 
   easy at all, and a very bloody ground war will probbaly 
   still be necessary despite air successes.
<rdh> 
<CaptainJ> I AM!  ?  NO.  :P
<Hal> if husein unites the most fo the moslem world, we are 
   in deep sh*t
<Some1> stop that 
<LogServ> just FYI, in sci.military a list of forces in the 
   gulf was posted...
<jph> So, anyone think it's funny that that the French 
   Mirages are being used to fight the allies (and the french, 
   since they jumped it)
<fisu> /comm ken +WAR
<WinterMut> stop with the ^G's please
<lisbet> what is that for fisu?
<Stridre> I just turned off mu sound
<mcoady> I thought that carpet bombing had begun on the 
   "green troops".
<alpha1> jph: quite humorous
<Phoenix> you can do /set sudible_bell off
<jph> sudible?
<ee11> Hal: What difference that would make, after all , we 
   have all the nukes.
<Phoenix> audible
<CaptainJ> No carpet bombing that I'm aware of - surgical 
   bombing on everything including elite troops!
<PeaceServ/+WAR> Report from Swan: The british parliament 
   is almost unanimously behind the govertment efforts in the 
   gulf.
<Beelzebub> Any casualty counts yet (on iraqui tropps)?
<nicky> I wish this program didn't tell us every second 
   that some one got on or off the channel
<Hal> ee11: nukes aren't acceptable...
<mcoady> They HAVE sent 20 b-52's out over Iraq.  What else 
   could they be doing?
<SDY> nukes aren't necessary.
<Phoenix> nicky: /on ^join * /comm
<Some1> nicky: try /m peaceserv
<SDY> look what the b52's are doing...
<ee11> Isn't the B52 used to carry missiles near their 
   targets more than in the normal bombing ?
<alpha1> nicky: i agree, I've been searching for a way to 
   ignore that
<Phoenix> and /on ^leave * /comm
<lippu> Saddam is a powerhungry man, he uses islam and 
   Palestinians as an instrument
<CaptainJ> BOMBING STRATIGIC MILITARY SITES ONLY - AWAY 
   FROM CITIES...NOT REALLY CARPET BOMBING CITY.
<kit> hi Dave
<PeaceServ/+WAR> Report from Swan: various palestinians 
   express sadness that their great hope, saddam hussein is 
   being hit.
<Stridre> LIKE THE CHEMICAL PLANTS
<CaptainJ> RIGHT!
<Maleger> Is CNN still off in Baghdad?
<CaptainJ> :).  CNN IS OFF.
<Some1> is off ?
<jph> even Moscow is behind us!  ! ! @ @ # # $ $ % % ^ ^ & 
   & * * ( ( ) ).  (((((STEREO)))))
<Some1> jph ?
<Maleger> thanks Cap
<Swan> soviet appealed to jordan to stay  out of war.
<Phoenix> rs: not that I know of
<CaptainJ> LAST LIVE BROADCAST FROM BAGDAD AT 11AM EASTERN.
<ee11> Hal: So what ? So is chemical weapons ... to whom 
   can they complain if the rules are broke. And I meaned 
   nukes aren't needed against Iraq at all. But if it becomes 
   ( seems unpropable ) Islamic <-> Christian countries war ...
    that would be so big that we co
<nicky> Pretty angry there Napoleon
<Some1> Rserc: no way for the signoffmsg
<ee11> uld use 'em.
<PeaceServ/+WAR> Report from Swan: Major news!  UN relief 
   organization will pay for jordanian refugee problem, thus 
   relieving massive human suffering.
<Stridre> IRAQIS DID NOT LIKE THE REPORTS OF THE DAMAGE 
   FROM CNN
<jph> does anyone know if there is a mil.* UseNet groups?
<kit> like I said, apparently we don't need nukes.......
<CaptainJ> YUP.
<Maleger> did anyone notice how bizarre Bernie Shaw of CNN 
   was acting late last night?
<Napoleon> nicky: The KGB-troops terrorised Latvia last 
   night.
<Frodo2> Some1: there is a patch availabe for signoff. /msg 
   peaceserv for that.
<PeaceServ/+WAR> Report from NPR: US jet was downed by a 
   SAM.  Efforts underway to rescue Kuwaiti pilot
<CaptainJ> IRAQIS REPORTEDLY DID NOT WANT US INTELLIGENCE 
   TO KNOW THE SUCCESS OF THEIR MISSIONS - HENCE THE 
   CENSORSHIP.
<Rscero> Maleger: yeah, but I probably would be weird too 
   if I was there.
<Hal> ee11: I don't wee us using nukes while they don't 
   have them.... wait til saddam nukes new york...  that'll 
   signal the end of the war...
<Kake> peaceserv
<alpha1> Maleger: probably tired
<mcoady> (captainJ) Are you POSITIVE that carpet bombings 
   have not yet begun? I thought I heard it on the radio
<micko> Yeah, after not sleeping for thirty hour and having 
   massive bombs going off over your head, you'd feel a little 
   bizzarre also, eh?
<Maleger> I got the feeling Bernie wanted to be flying a 
   plane last night
<nicky> So then say fuck the KGB, not Moscow.(by the way 
   I'm only teasing you)
<CaptainJ> (IF ITS HAPPENING NOW, ITS POSSIBLE).
<lisbet> Everyone is talking rumors because noone knows the 
   truth
<PeaceServ/+WAR> Report from Swan: John Major (brit prime 
   minister) speaking live.
<alpha1> Bernie is an aggressive man.
<nicky> lisbet is 100% correct!!!!
<kit> libet: NO shit. I agree. Let's hear facts people.
<jph> Bernie was a scared man.
<mcoady> What else can one do, lisbet?
<Frodo2> how do you think President Bush is informed?
<CaptainJ> CNN GUYS WERE HIDING UNDER TABLES - THEY WERE 
   QUITE SCARED.
<alpha1> He has a right to be.
<CaptainJ> I RELAY FACTS.  (IN CAPS)
<Kaiser> What's the latest guys?
<Maleger> I mreally like Bernie  who else would say thge 
   attacks are shaking him to his "soul"?
<CaptainJ> Opinions like this.  :)
<alpha1> Bush probably informed from irc
<Stridre> I WOULD BE SCARD TOO IF I WAS IN BAGDAG
<jph> so, exactly how sucessful was the initial attack?
<PeaceServ/+WAR> Report from Swan: "have given Iraq every 
   opportunity to withdraw.  Have patiently sought peace but 
   Hussein chose war.  Rebuffed even the secretary general.   
   World agreed saddam must withdraw or face war.
<CaptainJ> ME TOO.
<Rscero> s
<lisbet> Bush is informed but can't tell us because of 
   security
<ee11> Hal: As I said ... they are too heavy for just 
   Saddam, but against all islamic world.
<CaptainJ> *KNOCK CAPS HARD, TO NO AVAIL*
<Hal> CJ: they were hiding under the tables because they 
   didn't want to be discovered by a building sweep and made 
   to go dwonstairs....
<Kake> nickserv
<Maleger> I'm not making fun of Bernie,just noting his use 
   of words
<kit> jph: we killed 80 percent of our targets according to 
   ABC news.
<CaptainJ> That's what I thought...
<alpha1> I understanf Maleger
<mcoady> Stop printing in CAPS, you cocky bastards!
<lisbet> Soul:  Were you nervous when we went in on how 
   that would affect you, like if we missed?
<CaptainJ> WHO?
<PeaceServ/+WAR> Report from Swan: (that was John Major 
   prime minister of britain)
<jph> kit: is that very sucessful compared to other wars?
<nicky> YOU YOU BASTARD!!!
<PeaceServ/+WAR> Report from Nati: PLO person claims that 
   no terorist actions were planed anywhere in the world.
<alpha1> come on men, no fighting now
<kit> jph: VERY.
<Stridre> WE GOTO, SIGHTED, COMFIRMED, AND LAUNCHED ATTACKS 
   ON 80% OF OUR TARGETS
<CaptainJ> JPH - JCS IS VERY PLEASED WITH RESULTS.
<mcoady> Okay, I appologise.
<nicky> By the way this is really enjoyable
<Stridre> SORRY I this beter
<jfk> back
<alpha1> nicky: I agree, this is my first time, and it's 
   incredible!
<Stridre> What is your first time?
<nicky> Stridre please try to make sense
<PeaceServ/+WAR> Report from NPR: Harriers and B52s used in 
   latest attack on armored sites in Iraq
<Maleger> this is a good time to be on irc for sure!
<alpha1> Using the irc
<PeaceServ/+WAR> Report from Swan: Turkey news!  finally.  
   48 US aircraft added to Turkey to appx 100.  Turkey is 
   seeking security from allies/US/NATO.  Turkey needs 
   economic assistance from west.
<Deryni> first time alpha1?  Will you respect us in the 
   morning though?
<kit> I want to kmnow if we are still flying helicopter 
   missions over Kuwait.......
<soul> listbet: there is tension evryday here, so the war 
   is not something different from other day.
<lisbet> Did Turkey declare war yet?
<ee11> RUSSIAN TROOPS HAVE begun random arrestings on 
   Lithuania, 11 already taken. Situation in Latvia is cooled 
   down a little.
<jph> how do I send reports to peaceserv?
<mcoady> This is more informative than any other media that 
   I've witnessed esp. on this war.
<Rscero> alpha1: MY first too, I'm overwhelmed!
<nicky> Don't get kinky on us now Deryni
<CaptainJ> KUWAITI EYE WITNESS:  SOLDIERS ARE MAD AT US - 
   VERY AGGRESSIVE ACTIVITY IN KUWAIT.
<Stridre> ON OUR ATTACKS 80% IS FOR THE LAUNCH OF BOMBS AND 
   MISSILES NOT FOR THEIR HITS
<PeaceServ/+WAR> Report from Swan: Turkey has 150 mile 
   border with iraq, 125-150,000 forces.  fewer iraqi forces 
   on other side.
<alpha1> Deryni: I don't know, I feel violated. But, no 
   regrets
<lisbet> Soul True.  But I am glad, maybe after this ends 
   you will have a little peace, ARe you in the army?
<kit> and has Turkey decided to allow us to fly missions 
   from bases there?
<Deryni> :-)
<Rscero> jph: "/msg PeaceServ ......"
<mcoady> I was a virgin till today as well fellahs
<PeaceServ/+WAR> Report from Swan: There are 15,000 people 
   demonstrating in Stuttgart FRG.
<kit> jph: /m peaceserv <message>
<CaptainJ> Oh like we all need to know.....  geez...........
   .........
<Rscero> Turkey declared war about 1:00 am Eastern.
<jph> eeep
<jfk> there they go....
<LogServ> ping
<kit> gulp!
<CaptainJ> OH GREAT...
<Maleger> jesus
<alpha1> Rscero: Are you sure?
<kit> pong
<nicky> Where do you guys get all of your juicy info?????
<PeaceServ/+WAR> Report from Swan: Marines and various 
   ground units approached kuwaiti border and are waiting 
   there in a holding pattern.
<Hal> ack!
<lisbet> Yeah I didn't konw
<Deryni> by by love... by by happyness.
<SDY> so was turkey the first country to declare war?
<Maleger> maybe they were in Iraq
<lisbet> I know this mornign they were considering it
<PeaceServ/+WAR> Report from Swan: Does anyone have word 
   about turkeys war declaration?  Or Kurdish activity?
<LogServ> rscere: does it mean turkey is going to attack ?
<Rscero> yes, I was watching CNN when it was announced it.
<Stridre> I hope the soviet union announces war also
<mcoady> Turkey has jumped on the bandwagon with the U.S. 
   because of recent developments.
<soul> lisbet: i will be in the army after i finish 
   studying(6 years of army). about the peace, the war did not 
   change anything.
<CaptainJ> CNN IS BEST NEWS SERVICE (IMO)
<Stridre> say they border Iraq also
<alpha1> Stridre: No chance
<LogServ> Stridre: SU has no access to it ! WAR       
<johnnyb:(null)> UN is considering re-convening the 
   security council
<Swan:(null)> There are several countries in favor of 
   reconvening the security council to order a halt to the US 
   lead war.  (algeria, yemen, libya).  This idea has no 
   support in the security council though.
<johnnyb:(null)> most veto countries have agreed to veto 
   any such idea
<Nati:(null)> How about Chaina ?
<Swan:(null)> I haven't heard anything from china at all.  
   no peace initiatives are expected from the UN.
